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      Which is by almost all means better than downloading a random crap of a package from the web because “that’s how it’s done on wondows”. Seriously, distributing software via repositories is like second most important reason the situation with malware isn’t the same on the desktop Linux market (the first being small market share). And nope, that’s not because Linux is somehow “more secure”, which it isn’t.

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    Unpopular opinion, I think this should be like this if there exists a snap or a package in the repo for it. Even if this is a bug. Maybe they should make a popup educating users about how they don’t need to download installers. As for apps like discord, I believe there is a well maintained snap package available to install easily from the app center. I can’t seem to find chrome there sadly, but it is on flathub. I hope it gets a package.

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      I don’t agree with you on this, people are used to install app on other operating systems this way, there is a better way yes I’m not arguing this, but a lot of proprietary software is distributed this way and not on the snap store, and being ubuntu a noob friendly distro make it worse for the averange user to search the internet only to install deb packages instead of providing a user friendly interface!

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        Yup, I understand that people are going to search for an installer and install it that way. What I am saying is maybe they should direct users to the snap store or something if the package they are trying to install exists on there already. Pretty non intrusive way to make sure they are doing it the right way.

        Edit: this is not me advocating for snaps btw. I don’t care what package manager anyone uses, as long as its not bricking your system.

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    Try command line?

    dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb

    That’s likely an app just not installed by default for GUI

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      Correct, but new users don’t want to need the command line for something as simple as installing packages.

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        New users probably shouldn’t be installing .debs, especially if they don’t know about terminal commands. I’ve seen so many fucked up systems from people treating Linux as Windows, as in installing everything by searching for stuff on their browser, downloading an installer and installing that.

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          Problem is a lot of closed source software still release their software as .deb or .rpm packages that installs their repos so you can install their software from the software centre.

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          In other words, you’ve seen fucked up systems because people treat their Linux system like literally every non-Linux system they’ve used.

          Which is a Linux problem, not a user problem.

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            No, it’s a user problem on both OS’s. Installing random shit from untrustworthy sources is a much more likely source of infection that a zero-day, network-based exploit, etc

            Not every OS allows you to simply click on a random installer/eventually (maybe enter a password) and get owned. IOS on phones doesn’t. Android requires you enable untrusted sources.

            It sounds like not including a GUI app by default to click-install random packages (outside the package manager) is the extra step for various Linux distros. That’s not a problem, that’s a good idea.

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              • Random shit
              • Untrustworthy

              So github is untrustworthy now.

              And again you’re arguing in favor of walled gardens. Fucking hypocritical imbeciles. Anything to keep your precious fucking OS free from criticism, right?

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                Github is untrustworthy, anyone can put anything on there. It is up to the end user to determine if a project is safe to use or not.

                The default repos for Debain on the other hand are filled only with software that has been checked by at least one competent person, making them inherently safe.

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                  But I thought the open nature of open source meant it was safe because someone has checked all code everywhere!

                  This shit has become tedious.