Lemmy.world has somehow decided to become to extreme defenders of “copyright” and decided they will now delete posts that contain archive links in an absurd move that not even corporate websites like Reddit do. Archive links provide a service to provide access to an article long after it is deleted or changed.
They made this post and locked it immediately so no one can comment on how ridiculous it is and they’re deleting threads about the decision…
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6711646
The LW admins have requested that communities remove any posts that include the entire article or archive links to articles.
A short summary is allowed, but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. This includes links to sites that rehost copyrighted articles for paywall sites.
If your post is removed for a rule 1 violation you can edit the post and let the moderators know the copyrighted material has been removed.
Thanks All!
This is a bad move that’s anti-community and user-hostile. Hopefully it also fucks over the monopoly they’ve been trying to get over communities. People need to stop defaulting to putting their communities under
.world
jurisdiction and use other, smaller, and more relevant instances instead.Do not under estimate the copyright mafia. The pirate bay admins spent time in jail (and didn’t host anything).
Hosting copyright infringement is taken seriously, including civil damage which would definitely bankrupt a non profit organization. But it could result in jail time if the administrators don’t take action.
A small team like LW (or any Lemmy instance) doesn’t have a team of lawyers dealing with that shit. Please be kind with your admin and follow the laws, even the ones which suck
Nah, Fuck off. Admins are under no obligation to enforce copyright of any particular country. They can easily move their hosting to some non-shithole or transfer ownership and move on with their life.
I get the impression that one of the main goals of Lemmy World admins is simply to assert control over its users. Whether they realize this or not and are just doing habitually. There was a post awhile back about the feature of users being able to do instance blocking themselves and they were pretty against the idea of an instance that federates with everything in order for users to do their own moderation. As this would obviously take away their ability to control users.
In my opinion they are just bullies who have convinced themselves they are in the right.
This is pretty much what happened to Reddit, no?
Lemmy is going to have worse mod issues than reddit, and this is an example of how and why.
The difference is that this is federated and you can ignore any instance you like. With reddit, your only choice is to make a copycat sub and hope people join you.
Which sounds good, until you start to notice that most instances have functionally dead communities, and the majority of traffic comes happens on a small number of instances.
Lemmy doesnt have the population to have mass community movement, so mods abusing power in any of the larger instances means you shut up and put up with it or abandon the instance with 1/3 of the site content on it.
Power modding is going to be a much much larger issue here, while the community is still small. Maybe if there were enough users, federation might resist mod abuse. But as it is now (and will be for a while at least,) you basically are making a copycat instance or community and hoping people join you.
Maybe if there were enough users, federation might resist mod abuse
This is key right here, but users need to be using a diverse set of instances. Lemmy.world needs to stop being “the default”. There shouldn’t be “a default”. Maybe for when you first sign up, but people need to be moving to self-hosted and/or niche interest instances. That’s the best way to prioritize diversity in the ecosystem.
Frankly, anyone who’s on a
lemmy.whatever
domain orkbin.whatever
should be finding smaller, more manageable instances to move to as they discover the fediverse. This will be aided when 0.19.0 comes out in a few weeks and enables the export/import for accounts.One thing I appreciate about how the incentives of the platform are set up is that, since there’s no global account counter of up/downvotes, there’s really no loss in migrating. As long as I can keep my communities, subscriptions, blocks, and saved posts, I’ll have lost nothing.
They’ve defederated from lemmygrad.ml: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/2347489
Great news.
Critical support for lemmy.world admins alienating their users by managing to be more fascist than Reddit admins.
lmao. Defederate immediately, just on principal. Let Lemmy.world know that once they stop being capitalist stoogies they can reapply for federation.
Removed by mod