• Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    In my country we produce for ourselves and sell the excess too… Still not even close to a socialist utopia though…

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      Every country exports and imports, that’s not what I’m talking about. Private monopoly Capital in western countries extends and carves out the value created in the Global South. The PRC is far more industrialized than any Western Country, it doesn’t engage in Imperialism. Here’s a good article on Imperialism.

      Further, nobody said China was a Utopia. It’s a developing Socialist country, Socialism isn’t some holy status that makes all who live in it live magical lives, it’s a mode of production. China has a long way to go, but Socialism is why it has had the success it has so far.

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        I see, well, that means I must be already living in some kind of socialist utopia then. That’s nice!

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          No, you don’t, nobody does, there are no “utopias.” Further, Socialism is not the absence of Imperialism, it’s a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, not private ownership. There are no Socialist western countries, and all countries we think of as the “west” participate in this system of Imperialism dominated by the US Empire.

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            Well if China is a socialist developing country and the living conditions are inferior than what i have here, this must be an even more advanced socialist society, basically an utopi.

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              Socialism doesn’t mean “good living conditions,” Socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, not private ownership. Further, if you are living in a western country, you are living in a country that benefits from Imperialism, and has not had to liberate itself from colonialism and subjugation.

              This is just silly, I really don’t know what point you’re trying to make other than being intentionally obtuse.

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                  The overwhelming majority of the large firms and key industries are publicly owned and planned, and hence is the principle aspect of the economy. Private ownership is typical of small and medium firms, and as these grow they are folded into the public sector with increasing control. There’s also a substantial cooperative sector, like Huawei and commonly in collective farms.