• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    “Critical thinking” doesn’t mean test results aren’t test results, nor does it mean refusing to engage with Socialist critique on the basis of it being “propaganda.” You can certainly think of new tests that might shed new dimensions on the test results, but the test results are the test results, they exist and are valid for existing.

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      No, that’s not how it works. If you test something thatbis not even scientifically measurable over two different samples you aren’t testing shit. You are just throwing numbers around that don’t correlate to each other.

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        It provided multiple studies and recorded responses to various questions, and the data is consistent across studies. In what manner is this not “even scientifically measurable?” Is a response not a response?

        Genuinely, you’ve only served as a contrarion.

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              There is no “coefficient” of freedom of expression to be coupled with that, so that you can start to try a comparison.

              As a random example, that coefficient could be derived by the percentage of population that has been arrested for protesting in the last year.

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                The numbers are measures of physical reality. You can expand the degrees tested, but that doesn’t mean the numbers were pulled out of thin air or were made up. There’s no such thing as a “coefficient of freedom,” you can certainly fudge numbers however you want to by adding or subtracting variables, but the raw data is very much valid data.

                Again, this entire time you seem to be playing the contrarion for the sake of being a contrarion, you complain about Socialists and refuse to engage with Socialist theory. What are you trying to gain?

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                    Yes, I already told you that you can add or subtract variables, but the underlying metrics are valid nonetheless as the metrics themselves. “Do you approve of your government? Yes, or no?” Is a question that you can ask in many different countries, and collect data on. The numbers are not “invalid” because you disagree with the implications.

                    As for the Economist, it’s measuring freedom for capital to flow, not democracy. The Economist is a bourgeois liberal rag so old and consistent that Lenin described it accurately a century ago as a “journal that speaks for British millionaires.” Some things don’t change.

                    Again, what are you hoping to gain, here?