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    20 hours ago

    You are right, I buy organic as often as I can to not support the spraying of poison. And I usually eat whole grains, as you suggested, as it is much healthier.

    we add tons of god knows what chemicals

    This ticks #9 of the Vegan Bullshit Bingo. I’m from Europe and our basic organic oatmilk comes with stuff made from algue, seeds and plant oils. This is used everywhere in foodprocessing. Look it up, no dangerous “chemicals” to be found. There are brands that add sugar and artificial flavor, sure. Udders milk has about 5% sugar (lactose) and oat milk usually doesn’t transcends this.

    There is (almost) no baby killing going on

    Half of the newborns are male and killed for veal, no? And the females get to be raised, milked and killed after a couple of years, so McDonald’s can sell you cheap beef burgers.

    most cows would get an udder infection if not molken regularly

    Vegan Bullshit Bingo #17: Cows need to be milked
    We did that to them by breeding them like that. That’s Bullshit Bingo #32.

    Also, of you don’t want to grow so much oat and soy because it destroys ecosystems and rainforests (#2), don’t feed animals, feed people! We’re losing like 80% of the calories by giving it to cows. Here is a graph from the BBC

    I live like 200 meters away from a dairy farm, no shit. :)

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      19 hours ago

      soy … destroys ecosystems and rainforests (#2), don’t feed animals, feed people!

      the vast majority ( over 80% ) of soy is pressed for oil. the byproduct of that process is called soycake or soy meal, and it would be industrial waste if we didn’t feed it to livestock. that’s a conservation of resources.

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      10 hours ago

      https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/veterinary-science/articles/10.3389/fvets.2023.1178279/full

      https://www.mpi.govt.nz/dmsdocument/65274-Mortality-rates-in-young-calves-in-the-2023-spring-calving-season/

      It’s 1% in every credible source I found. I don’t know where you got your garbage from. But then again, you’re using Vegan Bullshit Bingo, which is sponsored by and quotes the known terrorist organization Peta. So, it’s save to say that nothing you said is even remotely true.

      Oh, and BTW vegan Bullshit Bingo #17 is also a complete lie! I work with Allgäuer Braunview, one of the most natural cow breeds out there. They still suffer from udder infections when not milked. In the wild this is mittigated by calves, but it can still be a problem when the calf dies.

      Edit: Good god, I finally found out where the heck this 40% number comes from. This is a problem EXCLUSIVE to New Zealand! In every other part of the world, the vast majority of calves is raised till adulthood!