@Cowbee@Hansae Absolutely. I don’t use the term lightly. Frankly, even the presumably-Marxist up there trying to make a defence is living in a weird fantasy version of it. If there’s a difference between the dignity of workers and the “glory of the state”, you’re not talking about a worker’s democracy, you’re talking about a comic-book western interpretation of what socialist nationalism looks and sounds like.
I feel pretentious as hell, but it has to be said that all in all this thread is full of disappointment on all ends. And now that I’m back to read it even more…where are the mods to take care of the bozos going on about gulags and icepicks?
Yep, it’s a regular occurance here, this is Lemmy.ml, which is broadly federated. The more consistent instances like Hexbear and Lemmygrad will have far fewer of these strawman “gotchas,” and more people that have made it a point to study theory and join an org.
On the flip side, Lemmy.ml is a fantastic place to correct these misconceptions for those who don’t already know much theory or history. It has a lot of liberals visiting, but the mods don’t remove Marxist responses that other instances like Lemmy.world would.
@Cowbee @Hansae Absolutely. I don’t use the term lightly. Frankly, even the presumably-Marxist up there trying to make a defence is living in a weird fantasy version of it. If there’s a difference between the dignity of workers and the “glory of the state”, you’re not talking about a worker’s democracy, you’re talking about a comic-book western interpretation of what socialist nationalism looks and sounds like.
I feel pretentious as hell, but it has to be said that all in all this thread is full of disappointment on all ends. And now that I’m back to read it even more…where are the mods to take care of the bozos going on about gulags and icepicks?
Yep, it’s a regular occurance here, this is Lemmy.ml, which is broadly federated. The more consistent instances like Hexbear and Lemmygrad will have far fewer of these strawman “gotchas,” and more people that have made it a point to study theory and join an org.
On the flip side, Lemmy.ml is a fantastic place to correct these misconceptions for those who don’t already know much theory or history. It has a lot of liberals visiting, but the mods don’t remove Marxist responses that other instances like Lemmy.world would.