• parpol@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    13.15 is the average number of transactions per second. Max TPS (57.91) is the largest recorded TPS, not the capacity of the blockchain. Max TPS will rise as more people use layer 2. Layer 2 solutions can handle 2,000-4,000 TPS, and there are 24 commonly known ones that can do these transactions in parallel.

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      8 months ago

      Yes but 65000 TPS for Bitcoin would likely have the planet glowing much brighter in the infrared… possibly even the visible, for all the heat we’d need to dump.

      A rich, warm, and sterilized world!

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        8 months ago

        I’m personally advocating for Ethereum which is Proof of Stake and uses a fraction of the energy Bitcoin does.

        However, correct me if I’m wrong here because I’m not that much invested in bitcoin as a tech or investment, but isn’t almost half of the energy used on bitcoin generated from renewables? I could swear I saw an article about it somewhere.

        Although nowadays people seem busy heating up the world telling AI to cheat on their homework, so I wonder if this is a problem with society rather than technology.

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          It may very well be renewable. I’m really more referring to the inefficient way in which the sums are calculated. Those data centers get warmish.

          And yeah, AI is just the next thing we decided to punish our GPUs with. Crazy how we’ve used that part of the computer these last few decades…

          I’m more engaged in a chat gpt session that I am staying up till 4 am watching line graphs of crypto prices, guilty as charged 😁. Not sure what comment it makes about society other than “we seem pretty lonely, everything ok?”

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      8 months ago

      Isn’t that still an order of magnitude less than what Visa can do? Or is there some extra math involved that I don’t know about

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        I think it depends on the layer 2 solution, but as far as I understand, each of these layer 2 solutions independently have 2000-4000 as theoretical max, and only after bulking transactions together do they affect layer 1, so you should be able to add all layer 2 together for the total.

        I guess the spatial sharding update will further increase the maximum number of transactions you can bulk by a factor or two so an individual layer 2 solution becomes comparable with visa, but I don’t think that update is coming to Ethereum in several years. Then again, Ethereum needing to perform 60,000 TPS is likely not happening this decade either.

        For now at least, layer 2 is fast and cheap, although a bit difficult to use.