• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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    I think you’re right about that being the origins of the joke, but the joke is distinctly trying to infer the reverse. Funny in context, but out of context, it’s just an obnoxious over-association leaking out of a community.

    It’s as stupid and culturally braindead as the old 2000s jokes where the entire punchline is the gay guy is flamboyant. haha gay rainbows! Ver funny!

    yawn

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        Do… do you think a boomer would write out “yawn” and sorta use doge speak in a message about what used to be viewed as progressive!? Or are you a literal child that doesn’t even remember the 2000’s? Either way, fucking pathetic ability to clock someone.

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          Boomer is a mentality, and “ok boomer” is a joke. No need to get so worked up lmao

          I’m just pointing out that Gen Z is much more proudly queer and especially GNC (unlike millennials whocame to age in a world where the overwhelming majority of developed countries did not even allow gays to get married!) and we not care how funny you think the joke is since it literally does not apply to you (presumably). Did it even occur to you that those “gay pride jokes” of the 2000s you deride so easily were your generation’s queer people’s way of finding acceptance and community? That “pure comedic value” (as if that was a chemical element you could distill out of memes somehow) is not the only value some people find in memes?

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            You are utterly and completely failing to understand that the joke itself is culturally bereft of meaning.

            Sad. No gay person ever felt more accepted by society from a joke that was implying gayness on a different minority. If anything, that tokenized gayness for society.

            Why do you want to be a token?

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              This is a joke BY queers FOR queers. The goal is NOT to make cishets comfortable, or to teach them anything, or generally to cater to their feelings at all.

              Is it so hard to understand that sometimes people want to feel seen? Why does it matter that “society” will take it badly because of tokenization or whatever the fuck? Are you even queer yourself or just projecting what you think queer people should want? Because I’m queer and I appreciate “haha non-queer thing but now queer” humor.
              It’s not very high brow, but that’s just the nature of shitposting and I don’t go off on the tens of supposedly relatable dead horses that get beaten every day in meme communities either.

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                I’m not knocking the sentiment you describe. I’m knocking the use of projective and tokenizing bullshittery.

                I’m sorry you’re offended, but these jokes specifically are doing culture and acceptance no favors.

                You can feel accepted without reducing yourself to a token.

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                  Why do you insist that my primary objective should be “culture and acceptance”? People, many/most of whom presumably queer, find the meme enjoyable.

                  Who are you to tell us to stop having fun in the name of conformity and that we should instead work to “win” the favor of the out-group?

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                    You yourself said it was about feeling seen.

                    Do you think that only comes in one flavor?