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    Tu détestes le français spécifiquement, ou juste le fait d’avoir eu à apprendre une autre langue?

    Le français, je peux comprendre un peu, il y a quant même plusieurs spécificités étranges à cette langue. Ce n’est pas pour rien qu’on passe plusieurs années à l’apprendre avant d’éventuellement passer à la littérature. Je crois que les cours d’anglais langue première font cette transition beaucoup plus tôt.

    Détester le fait d’avoir eu à apprendre une autre langue, là je ne comprends pas du tout!

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        Pour un apprenant anglophone, par exemple:

        • Les objets inanimés genrés
        • Les lettres muettes en fin de mot (s au pluriel, e final, etc)
        • Les différentes façons d’écrire un même son (é, er, et, ai)
        • Les différentes façons de prononcer une même lettre (c, s)
        • L’énorme quantité de conjugaisons de verbes possibles
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      Tu détestes le français spécifiquement, ou juste le fait d’avoir eu à apprendre une autre langue?

      Я ненавижу французский конкретно. Я сожалею, что так и не выучил итальянский должным образом.

      Le français, je peux comprendre un peu, il y a quant même plusieurs spécificités étranges à cette langue.

      That accoustic dumpster fire shouldn’t even be referred to as a language.

      Détester le fait d’avoir eu à apprendre une autre langue, là je ne comprends pas du tout!

      Außer mangelnder Zeit habe ich kein Problem damit neue Sprachen zu lernen.

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        I guess I have my answer ;) I don’t know Russian but I know enough Ukrainian to know you’re talking about French and Italian, lol. And I know barely enough German to know you’re talking about learning languages (Sprachen).

        Not quite sure what you hate accoustically about French, though… The “r” sounds? I guess they’re very different from most other languages, but you seem to like German… If you’re comparing to Spanish (among others), I guess the overall stressing of sounds in a sentence is pretty different, too.

        Also, what kind of French did you have to learn? France has a very different sound from Québec for example… Altough if I look closely I see you’re on the sh.itjust.works instance and you mention having to learn it in school, which tends to indicate you’re Canadian. I guess hating on French is par for the course, then…

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          I guess I have my answer ;) I don’t know Russian but I know enough Ukrainian to know you’re talking about French and Italian, lol.

          I said that I hate French specifically and that I regret never having learned Italian properly. In German I said that I have no problem with learning new languages if it wasn’t for lack of time.

          Not quite sure what you hate accoustically about French, […]

          Reading and writing French is OK(ish, if I didn’t vocalize it in my head). I really hate the sound of that language. It sends shivers down my spine. I think for one thing I prefer harder/rougher sounding languages. Also, I’m an unforgiving person. We were told we can start learning a third language when we are in 7th grade. I was pondering whether to pick up Russian, Italian or Swedish. Then 7th grade comes around and the school’s like: Yah, you can choose between French and Latin. Well, fuck you too school. I hate our school system for this (and other reasons) to this day.

          but you seem to like German

          Being German, I’m kind of stuck with it. Not that I particularly dislike it, though.

          If you’re comparing to Spanish (among others), I guess the overall stressing of sounds in a sentence is pretty different, too.

          I dislike French, the language, not the people. I slightly dislike Spaniards, but not their language. Italian people speak loudly because they talk across the street. Spanish people do that while standing right next to each other. I think I’ll never get used to that.

          Also, what kind of French did you have to learn?

          French French.

          […] which tends to indicate you’re Canadian.

          Ha! Show me one comment where I apologized ;-)

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            Sorry I mistook you for a Canadian. There were just a couple clues pointing in that direction. I totally get you though, loving or hating a language isn’t something rational; I used to have a strong dislike for Spanish for pretty irrational reasons.

            If you like rougher languages, you should listen to some Québec French, then. There’s actually a song about how it sounds really different from France’s French: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgiNoNqYXMA