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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • I’m not the person you are replying to, but I do wonder what “third world countries” you are thinking of when you hear “Western Europe”?

    As someone who has lived in both the US and Germany (one of those “third world countries” with significantly lower health care cost, for both humans and animals) and who has seen the benefits and drawbacks of both countries - it’s completely delusional if you actually believe that someone who is supposedly living paycheck to paycheck is getting better health care in the US. The German system certainly has its flaws, but it beats the US in just about every sensible metric (accessibility, cost, life expectancy, infant mortality etc.), usually quite significantly so. The US does a solid number of things better than other countries, entrepreneurship and innovation for example, but health care absolutely isn’t among those things.

    What’s new to me (I had no exposure to the veterinary health care system during my time in the US) is that the inflated fantasy prices aren’t limited to humans only, but extend to pets as well. Anesthesia and extensive wound care, antibiotics, aftercare etc. are pretty standard therapies and they should cost little over a tenth of what you were quoted for your typical house cat.

    You honestly might want to shop around, because even within the US, those rates are almost certainly inflated.


  • I don’t think the downvotes are warranted. That is an exorbitant amount for the planned vet procedure OP describes.

    Vet rates in Germany, for example, are regulated and wound care under anesthesia is pretty standard treatment. Even with multiple, complicated wounds, a round of antibiotics, extensive after care, this would be a three digit bill - while likely more than 200€, it would still be far closer to that number than OP’s tenfold quote…

    Heck, even surgery for a complicated fracture wouldn’t come close to the 2000€ mark and can often stay below 1000€.

    We are all aware that the US healthcare system works with ridiculously inflated fantasy prices, but that this extends to veterinary care is news to me.





  • They did give a reason though:

    “Our overall goal is to provide a safe space to disenfranchised persons.”

    That goal is fundamentally incompatible with an open medium where they don’t have full control over every participant. That’s why they have already defederated from any large instance that allowed open registrations months ago and have only continued to cut ties rather than to mend them.

    BeeHaw’s definition of “nice” isn’t your or my definition of “nice”. It allows no dissent or opposing views on most subjects and more so, it doesn’t even allow for its members to be exposed to different ideas, however briefly.

    They are trying to build the perfect echo chamber, free from anyone not “nice”. You simply cannot build such a chamber if you don’t have full control over every aspect of it.

    BeeHaw’s entire concept would have been far more suitable for an old bulletin board style forum, the kind that is all but extinct today, but not for an open (in every sense if the word) platform.

    I’m writing this as someone whose views actually align pretty well with those of BeeHaw’s - with the exception of their heavy handed approach to anything and anyone not fully aligned with them.

    Their stated goal simply isn’t achievable outside of a sealed environment, so, no, Lemmy probably isn’t for them. They should look into phpBB and co.


  • “Oh no, they’ll contaminate a lot of goods that were prepared for recycling and endanger the health of the people involved in that process chain.”

    When corrected, most people don’t double down on their own, accidental, misinformation. The fact that you chose to be defensive and sarcastic instead, speaks a lot about the kind of person who dumps mercury in the recycling bin with the expectation that others will clean it up.