So they probably scrolled through a page of job ads and cherry picked a few so they could talk smack…

You can do this with any company

Egh. Are we going to start posting every Facebook car meme here now?

If workers like their job and feel appreciated, they work harder. The job also likely attracts better people.

They might be able to hire less people as a result

I did night fill at a supermarket here in Australia once. And there are so many useless people working at them. There was never any incentive to work beyond the minimum standard

Here in Australia at least, supermarkets are making record profits, so it would simply be less money for shareholders

Yeah.

I left beehaw because they seem determined to build a echo chamber too

A minority literally accused of me of wanting to kill all of them simply because I only half agreed with a post.

And then a admin overlooked that, and accused me of causing a fight in a “safe space” which seems to be just another term for echo chamber

I have friends from that minority 😂

Lots of people seem to be using it fine daily

Maybe you need to switch distro and check your hardware

Or if you’re getting lots of crashes, contribute code or money to get them addressed. Otherwise it’s clear your priorities aren’t straight

Johns problem is generally that he’s insecure and needs a scape goat because he can’t accept responsibility for his fuck ups.

So he picks a few minorities to target so he doesn’t need to acknowledge that he fucked around too much in high school or did too many drugs.

He doesn’t even need to be a majority, because there will always be someone else to blame

Yeah. Last thing I want is to deal with all the anti-environment, anti-EV pro-extremist right wing toxic-macho shit bots.

Quality, not quantity. With too many people, moderation begins to fail

It’s not a common scenario probably.

But I felt at least one admin was so focused on protecting at least 1 minority, that they were willing to overlook bad behavior by some of them. Or maybe they knew that if they told them to act better that the community would see them as a threat

In fact, the person who exclaimed that I “wanted to kill the entire minority” simply because I didn’t 100% agree with one thing also I realized colored my opinion early of the rest of Lemmy on another thread by calling it a cesspool

It’s actually the opposite. People are free to discuss on other servers, and I realize that lots of the thing that person was saying, was actually bad for discussions except in a way that benefits them directly (even disregarding other people in their minority).

The crazy part is I have plenty of friends who are part of that minority lol

They were a mod too, so over time, some of these communities will only develop stronger and stronger opinions which are self reinforcing and rise to the top in these safe spaces and basically become another femaledatingstrategy like environment

I’ve heard evidence that it was a fairly toxic community there anyway.

We should be careful to avoid creating communities that are echo chambers. Ie, it should be a community discussing veganism, not a vegan safe space where people abuse you if you disagree

Otherwise, in 5 years time you end to with scenarios similar to reddit or on beehaw

I left beehaw because I half agreed with the community, someone in a “safe space” abused me, and a beehaw admin overlooked that abuse and instead insisted I was starting a flight (simply because I didn’t 100% agree with the community it seemed)

We also risk scenarios where vaping or drug communities could grow and become toxic in the same way. We also should be as scientific as possible and avoid becoming Facebook.

I’m not sure about the cat thing, but to me, it seems like it could at least be used as animal abuse

I think initially it was simply because Ellen pao might have wanted freedom of speech. The funny thing is that the people she defended turned against her

But this turned into an issue eventually Steve seemed to get rid of some communities, and allowed places like thedonald to flourish. I believe he just wants money.

So you could be right

I never saw the thread, but based on what I’m hearing, it’s animal abuse.

If you look at Reddit and Facebook they’ve both been mostly consumed by anti science communities which put people in real danger

We see communities like this create an echo chamber which grows and make it impossible to argue sanely.

The fact is, I have seen some increasingly toxicity in some vegan (and some other) communities on Lemmy too. And it is one reason why I left beehaw. Because they allow toxic communities to flourish (as long as they were driven by a minority).

I’d even go as far as the behavior of some of these communities look like femaledatingadvice/thedonald on Reddit slowly. It’s ok to have disagreements, but nobody and no animals should be put at risk.

The biggest issue with Reddit and Facebook was that they let stuff like this stick around it and eventually consume it.

It’s a good policy imho, and I’m happy to see it

Science should prevail

I down voted op because it feels like he’s doing the classic bully maneuver where you seemingly either agree with this post, or he’s implied he’ll call you part of the hive Mind or whatever.

Also, personally, I don’t believe op genuinely cares about the answers.

It no longer works properly for me and no longer loads on my diy steam machine. Is this what your referring to?

Yes, bias is a thing. Ever hear of the placebo effect? It gives people a bias before clicking the link.

In fact, showing rankings actually makes it easier for bots because of that bias, they just randomly click stuff to appear neutral, and upvote their target posts, which when they say +1.4k, you’ll be biased into thinking it’s a popular opinion. Hence why hiding them by default actually maybe has benefits. There are no advantages to seeing the votes other than abuse. Name some.

As you said, they’re already accessible, so there is no point of bloating the code. Let’s not make them even more so and encourage abuse.

What problem is being solved here by doing this?

My implementation would be hide it from the UI by default for instances

Also, never said unranked… I meant simply hide the rankings. Part of the disadvantage of showing the totals on the UI means that high upvotes make it seem like it was highly popular. It also means that people don’t mindlessly upvote posts simply because there were a lot of upvotes. By hiding them, you know its popular, but no how popular. It changes the way people interact so it’s more normal.

Showing Upvotes/downvotes doesn’t show whether they are bots are not. It just means they’ll upvote/downvote more random shit and mess around wit the rest of the posts, so more crap rises to the top because they’re interfering with the rankings.

There are easier ways to identify bots… And, it just aids abusive people. I don’t think it will assist with bots at all… Sorry.

Problem is, it actually encourages a hive mind. I’ve already had 2 people try to bully me.

I’d go one step further. Upvotes down votes and totals should be hidden entirely. This would encourage people to post based on their own without external influence It reduces the incentive to use bots

Already had one person today mention my down votes .

It didn’t validate their argument at all and without context it can be interpreted in any fashion to make it seem malicious

Something tells me that you’re not at fault…

We have similar extremist dickheads here similar to trump (but Trump helps give them power too).

And yeah… It’s absolutely clear trump won’t change his behavior. That became clear after he had a second judgement filed against him for defamation by E Jean Carroll, and he can likely be sued a 3rd time successfully. He really is dumb as dog ****. Could have spent the rest of his life playing golf lying about his profitability. Instead he chose to offend half of the country, and draw attention to himself and his crimes by bragging

There seems to be a few people suddenly calling Biden racist too, and trying to say both parties are the same. If it quacks like a lobbyist, it is possibly a lobbyist…

But yeah. This is overall probably due to the election more than anything.

People like me (I’m Aussie) will even up vote some things simply because I can’t imagine how bad it would be for Trump to win again… For the entire world.