This was ingrained into me. When I needed some form of help but was interpreted as not needing it for whatever reason I’d get a “do you know what x person went through for you??” Style lecture, especially if I had the audacity to still be experiencing a problem after

Stop saying you know if you haven’t done it. If you knew you would have done it.

Edit: /s, was supposed to jokingly drop one of the canned responses we all receive from dumb people

Systemic ableism is the problem, not “having to deal with being neurodivergent”. Otherwise there would be no “solved” state. Though a solved state is pretty easy to get a decent definition of: A state wherein neurodivergent people have a equal outcomes in each area with respect to their neurotypical counterparts with the same base aptitude in the same subject matter, regardless of the differences in the path needed to realize whatever that aptitude is.

Now, that said, that only describes something that is lacking. I haven’t even heard of an education system that doesn’t specifically punish neurodivergent behavior, which, worse than something that is missing everywhere, is a negative that is present everywhere. So let’s call eliminating this a compromise solve.

As far as the ethnocentrism argument and it only being relevant if it’s solved somewhere, well, I guess the poor construction of that would be: “The ethnocentrism argument is only valid if there is an example of the problem being completely solved.” which I guess you sort or addressed effectively and I may have sloppily implied by accident. What I really was trying to say though, was, “The ethnocentrism argument only applies to this specific observation if you have an example of a school system to which the observation does not apply.” which I still stand by and still doubt you have such an example.

Can you name an education system globally that has solved the problems of diverse needs in education, and especially the type of neurodiverse needs that these types of memes generally reference? Because I do agree that activism that ignores diverse needs across a cultural and national axis is a problem, but it’s only a problem that applies here if there’s a place on Earth where this doesn’t apply.

I used to have a sort of wishful thinking-esque belief that there were better places for the education of neurodivergent children. When I was much younger I thought it must be one of the other local districts near me. Then I thought maybe another US state or western country. Then I finally tried to think globally. But I’ve yet to hear a description, in all of that desperate searching, of a widespread approach to education that actually addresses these problems or even considers them problems. I’m open to being wrong though. Can you show me one? Can you point at even one? Because if my cultural bias has blanked one out I really want to know which.

I definitely never said that there aren’t education systems that are better than other education systems because none are perfect, or implied that at all.

And the mistake you’ve made here is assuming that conceptually, something not being done correctly anywhere currently means it’s impossible. That idea basically negates the idea of human progress. There are lots of things currently being done that, in the past, were tried and failed simultaneously by many institutions across the planet before it was solved and the solution proliferated.

Education that is applied equitably to people who have different needs is a problem that, if solved in the theoretical realm (still doubt), definitely hasn’t been solved at the implementation step widely anywhere. I don’t think you could name a single country where education outcomes are equitable for ND people with respect to their NT counterparts with similar base capabilities. But it’s definitely possible.

Not true. The state of the art of education is in a certain place where education systems that are doing the best anyone is doing are still doing so with ableist discrimination forward. Those looking to the “most successful” education systems will be imitating these practices as well. The current best is far from the best it could be though, and things could be changed radically to remove that ableist discrimination.

A different set of strengths can form the illusion of “powers” if the majority of the people with those strengths are gatekept by ableist systems. I think part of this is just a massive filtration of neurodivergent people who make it into the professional world at every level followed by the observation that we are rare afterward. Well, we aren’t, just the ones that succeeded with no systemic backing are rare.

I totally understand the difficulty of this. I’d say it took years for the frustration of not finishing things to override the resistance to picking up the old save.

I started picking up old saves instead of restarting and now I finish them eventually. So then when you abandon the game you can say you’ll get to it on a future iteration of this cycle.

Yes, and I used to get right to it and do it guilt free, but the negative association with having those things punished as a child and teen made it harder to enjoy things permanently. I think paradigms for raising kids right now kind of do this to kids that get fixated on stuff. There’s gotta be a way to nurture the deep enjoyment of things and still get the kid to eat and sleep and go to school (which is also broken and might make the whole thing harder to fix).

Does node have wasm support yet? Corporations have been looking for a way to stack performance degradation on the web to an arbitrary degree. The Node running on wasm running on node running on wasm running on node running on wasm running in the browser stack could get so hot.

Does this give network latency on top of Bluetooth latency or does the network somehow “handshake” it with the Bluetooth on the devices you’re listening to?

Targeted ads be like

I’ve been wondering lately if I wouldn’t be more able to control it if I’d been educated in a way that was for me.

On one hand, the trauma from big and small punishments for not being as good at “traditional” task completion styles causes a certain type of reaction around task completion. I think this negative side is the side most people would agree with.

But aside from the present negatives, what about the absent positives? Most people get educated from early childhood to complete tasks in a style that suits them. The systemic memory of how to complete tasks the way neurotypical people complete tasks gets passed down to them and gives them the best chance to get the best of their inherent way of doing things. What if people who complete tasks differently had this sort of education? Would controlling the hyper fixation be more universal? Idk just something I’ve been thinking about.

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That sounds disgusting. This kind of thing is why I never move jobs.

Who at what company is having the conversation “let’s do (generic pattern)” without facing some kind of problem or inherent design need that can be solved by (generic pattern). Do these companies need software developers or did they just notice that all of the other companies have them? Surely some sort of inherent needs are driving their software.

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I wonder if Spanish people write more interesting Jira tickets.

Watching what you say and what you do isn’t masking. Watching what you are is masking. You don’t just filter out, you have to emote entire emotions that you’d express entirely differently because other people are disturbed by your normal expression of XYZ feeling.

It comes from years of being double punished when something bad happens because our remorse facial expression doesn’t match what they think remorse is supposed to look like so they don’t see any. And sometimes those.punishments are just for expressing something else in the non standard way.

I mean sure filtering topics is part of it, and it often involves filtering very pertinent topics. For example if something is really bothering you to the point of physical pain, but it isn’t supposed to be bothering you, that is the topic you then have to filter. And you have to physically replace your expressions of pain with whatever emotion you are supposed to be feeling. Of course you don’t replace your pain with the way youd express the emotion you’re supposed to be feeling. You replace the pain with how they wish you’d express the emotion they wish you’d be feeling.

Masking is gaslighting your entire body and brain out of every big and small action and reaction until whoever it is you really are is difficult to even retrieve.

I guess I have trouble telling which level of masking I’m seeing talked about because I interpreted the op as a conscious thing whoops.

I do both levels. Like, I have “I don’t want to explain this thing” which I’m trying to stop on that conscious level, but I also experience the other side where certain circumstances are just like, flashes in my brain that pull out the only response that feels safe, or sometimes the only one that seems non-destructive, but not in a way that I’m capable of processing in the moment, and I don’t know why I do it often. Unraveling that is a lot harder, though, and while it is happening, maybe the less advanced state of that unmasking effort is also why I can’t see it being talked about.

Being the autistic person on the receiving end of this sort of communication can be kind of frustrating ngl