Exactly

Not Amazon but some other not so well known place like that yeah.

Good to know! I worked in finance & consulting before and have never really seen it there or heard of it. Maybe I got lucky with the areas I was working in.

Thanks a lot for the thoughtful comment. I did what you said and submitted the PC version via Slack and Workday and offered to provide additional input if needed via voice call but they said it’s not necessary.

So I’m sticking to the official version. No idea what’s gonna happen with the PIP, I wasn’t affected by the last round of layoffs but maybe it’s gonna happen now during performance review.

I also hate the office politics, but learned a lot about it from being PIPed and likely (?) surviving it.

I kind of thought the same so I tried to be as objective as possible and submitted the feedback

Thanks for the idea, I’ve actually done that to make sure everything is as PC as possible and formulated in a positive way and decide to submit the feedback.

This. Some tech company bs. The measures compiled into it are often vague or impossible to achieve. Mostly it’s a tool to create a paper trail for firing you. They will say that you didn’t manage to achieve the goals of the plan, hence you’re fired. Sometimes people survive it. Sometimes it’s also genuinely meant to help improve your performance. One could argue that if you have a good feedback loop with your manager it won’t ever get this far, so mostly this tool is just used to get rid of unwanted people. Some companies have a quota of people to be put into this, e.g. Amazon.

It‘s the skip level of my former manager who’s reaching out now, but otherwise correct. Yeah my concern is about confidentiality and possible retaliation. Like it would be helpful to share the feedback but not at my own expense. So I guess I’m trying to weigh the risks here.

Honestly we just didn’t get along. I can handle many things but not the micromanaging, overtly enthusiastic type of manager where you can’t be sure you’re even getting credit for your own work.

Only rational reason would be that others may not have to deal with bad management. But honestly not a hill I’d be willing to die on.

Hmm the thing is me and some other team mate got roasted so badly that I would say all of this to his face, as it’s all packed nicely into fluffy diplomatic corporate speak. It’s pretty bad feedback anyway and other than me getting revenge I’m thinking there’s probably nothing for me to win but potentially the impression that I’m backstabbing? Idk