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sweet sweet sound!!!

I saw Felonious Munk at the DC Comedy Loft in Dec 24. Top notch show. Mental health was part of his set and was well received by the audience.

So? cheap labor?!

That’s the same argument I use for not having kids.

Also, I have a dog.

Yes and, you missed the last crucial step

“Make noise = human pay attention” “Human feeds and protects me = more kittens that probably know to pay attention” … “Profit”

Breaking news hahaha

not all heroes wear capes!!!

How would one implement these filters but EXCLUDE certain things … like say … filter anything with “MAGA” but allow it if there’s also mention of “Leopards” is still allowed? :)

Counter Point: the [ziti|grape|M&M etc] that tries to flee from the bowl gets eaten FIRST; RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

$8000!!! THAT’S INSANE

Where can you get anesthesia for only $8000?

I simply said their assertion was made in bad faith.

And we can probably agree to disagree on that. -Cheers and enjoy your Thanksgiving (if US based of course)

Moving past the joke of de-gendering a gendered colloquialism; yes I do agree with you on both of your points.

You’re not wrong. But if you want to 1) eliminate any chance of assumed gender in “Boss” due to cultural history, and 2) have a little fun with moving the mark into the absurd, you’d appreciate what I’m saying.

Ah well then perhaps we agree more than we thought :) Cheers Mate!

oh crap did I [whoosh]? sorry.

In my defense, in this thread, that was way too easy to read with a snarky tone as it was with a sarcastic tone. But I can totally hear it now!

I’m not removing it as irrelevant from all things. I’m saying its irrelevant as part of a discussion for what other traits define many and/or are exclusively manly.

I’m not really sure what you’re asking with ,“is your assertion that a woman or enby would use the word “manly” to describe and identity of being a responsible adult?”

For sure I’m not looking for a single authoritative definition. I am, in fact rejecting just about any definition or even the need for one. I am, at the end of my logic train, begging the question, “why does it even matter?” I certainly don’t care if society deems me “a man” or “manly”. I don’t judge other people by such a rubric. I think society would be better off if we work to actively reject such notions since they lead to gatekeeping which is rarely helpful. All that matters is that I’m happy with who I am, within the bounds of whatever it means to also being good to other people.

Obviously that opinion means it will be very hard for someone to come up with examples of traits* that are actually really honestly unique to man/male-ness which a woman can’t/won’t/shouldn’t also possess as part of being a good responsible person? I have yet to hear any. They ALL a equally true for a good person regardless of gender / gender identity.

*In this context I will concede the obvious biological function you’ve pointed out, while at the same time ignoring it as irrelevant because it can stand on it’s own AND have no impact on the other traits being discussed. Just because someone “handles themselves like an adult and happens to be male” doesn’t in mean it logically follows that handling oneself as an adult = male. Just like the equally valid sentence, “handles themselves like an adult and happens to be female” doesn’t make handling oneself as an adult = female. They just mean you’re a responsible adult and not an irresponsible child.

Well like, that’s just your opinion man.

The problem is you didn’t just call out their shitty identity

Check the usernames. Someone that claims misandry as their identity,

you also tried to use it to negate their assertion

is just spreading it.

Or said another way, you made an ad hominem attack and I called you YOU out on it.

[face palm] I haven’t seen that movie in a LOOOONG time.

I ignored it because I feel it’s not germane to the topic at hand; and I have no argument with your assertion either as it pertains to what the biological role of a “man” is in reproduction. But biological functions are not part of the discussion of traits of, or imposed expectations of, feeling like a man.

I disagree that being someone who fills the “biological reproductive male role” has anything to do with being or needing to feel “manly”. Since “manly” in my opinion is purely a cultural imposition. More so, any traits generally being mentioned in this whole thread are not exclusive to being a man, but of a good person.

From the rest of your reply though we’ll just have to agree to disagree that the “biological reproductive male role” has any influence on the discussion of what it means when a man says “sometimes a man wants to feel like a man” or similar discussions about what it means to be a man, or to use your word “manly”, because we’ll probably disagree about what it means to BE manly. But I also don’t concern myself with being manly so that might be the disconnect.