When I was in Denmark I was shocked how many cameras there were, everywhere. I mean not just in the city, but everywhere on the countrywide.

I’ve lived in Denmark for decades. The only cameras I see are basically surveillance cameras in stores etc and speed cameras. I see more cameras in most other countries I go to.

We have nothing compared to fx. London.

Where did you see cameras?

Denmark is one of those weird countries where its illegal to have your map software tell you where the speed cameras are.

That’s not correct. You can even buy gadgets for this in many stores.

Security is a spectrum. Telegram has never been the most secure alternative, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have any security.

So $10 plus a $3 tip is “paying extra” to you people

Yes. The price is 10. I pay 13. That’s 3 more. Simple math.

you’re gonna happily pay the same shitty owner $15 "and no more

That’s a straw man argument. I probably won’t support a shitty owner at any price.

What I want is to know the price up front, without checking for loopholes, adding tips and whatever. I don’t care how simple the math is, or how much I love math or how good I am at calculating in my head, or how big the impact is to my personal economy.

I see a price, I either pay it or I don’t. There’s a reason that anything else is literally illegal where I live.

You’re welcome to have your opinion, this is mine.

Again, I don’t mind tipping if I actually get extra. I’m a big tipper, if I get more than I’m paying for.

just licking some capitalist footwear under the guise of a kind of false consumerism

Wow, that’s American level defense of capitalism. Where I’m from, we pay a lot more attention to consumer rights and employee rights.

Fair enough, they can both be shit. I just don’t see how it’s my responsibility as a customer, to fix the problem that the resto is underpaying its staff.

The way I usually do my part to help workers who are not treated well, is to boycott the employer. If tipping is seen as a solution to that problem, I’d call that enabling. Tipping is the only reason restos can get away with grossly underpaying their staff. I don’t want to support that.

Are you seriously saying that the customer who pays full price and no more is “a piece of shit”, and not management who chooses to underpay the staff?

I’m not having any of that. I’d rather just not eat out. Enjoy no tip AND one less customer.

I’ll pay extra when I get extra. I paid over 150% yesterday. I’ve given big tips for free services. People sometimes give my cash tip back assuming I accidentally gave them 10x my intention. But not when it’s a simple transaction when I get what I ordered and I’m paying the advertised price.

Seemingly. 🙂

My ISP only has symmetric. The cheapest one they advertise costs about 10 Big Macs per month.

I can’t speed test my connection as my wifi is the bottleneck. But the way our law is, they can’t really lie about speed. The “up to” trick was banned a long time ago.