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  • Yeah, I’d agree with that.

    The point I was making was for people who thought this was cellphone cameras and that it would somehow work even if the camera wasn’t actively running.

    As far as war driving with an sdr you’d probably occasionally find something interesting, but the vast majority would be cameras just pointed back out at the street. I think you’d mostly see stuff where if you wanted to spy it would make more sense to hide your own camera because it’s already public.

    All that said, I would lose my shit if Hollywood did something believable for once and used this for a heist movie.




  • I work on this stuff, short answer, no, it’s not possible. This is just yet another overly complicated tempest attack. Especially with phones the camera link is so short it’s just not radiating enough. They claim 30cm so you basically need the receiver in the same backpack as the phones. As phones get higher resolution and faster cameras this will become even less of an issue. Also, most importantly the camera has to be powered and running for this to work so just don’t take pictures of classified stuff while carrying around a weirdly warm battery bank an unusually attractive eastern European girl gave you as an engagement gift and you’re good.

    The actual target here is some sort of The Thing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) style attack where someone with a huge budget can get a wildly expensive device really close to a system through a significant human intelligence effort.

    The line of reasoning is valid though. These satellites will have some ability to track and intercept low power intentional emissions like WiFi and cellular packets. While these are encrypted there are still things you can do with the metadata.



  • Part of the issue is the whole thing smells weird.

    Like they won’t talk about their monetization strategy at all but they acknowledge that there will be one. They’re trying to randomly apply crypto to something that’s literally already the one proven blockchain tech, and they started at the height of the crypto token scam industry and it looks a lot like they’re trying to suck up the last dregs of that cycle.

    If you are hammering crypto into things that don’t obviously need crypto you really need to justify it thoroughly. A relatively old company just hand waving all of it should raise all of the red flags.




  • Yeah the security angle gets parroted a lot, I’d call it more of a bad practice thing than a “omg you’ll definitely get haxxord”.

    Otoh USB C as a spec is sort of necessarily a nightmare. It’s not hard to end up with shitty devices that’ll gleefully provide 20V when the system expects 5V and even if it’s just USB A, it’s not that hard to end up with 120/240v going straight into your phone.

    At least with devices you own and control you know if they’re melting things and haven’t spent their lives being kicked/spilled on/cleaned with corrosive solvents or just generally old as hell and unmaintained.

    Personally I bring my own because it’s faster and more reliable, and I have trust issues.