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So those countries are still American puppets under trump “leadership”

to me libs are hypocrites who try to not anger any side too much

Not even Israel really believe the deals was great deal to Palestinians. Israel should give back all occupied land expect Israel it self of course unconditionally

Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well. - Shlomo ben ami

The hatred of Palestinians toward jews is just too systemically ingrained and indoctrinated

This is exactly the same excuse people was saying to justify maintaining the apartheid in south Africa. They claimed that black people would get vengeance on white people . There is many example of successful reconciliations between countries , population and groups in civil wars

There is zero big argument about power dynamic, Israel could easily reoccupy all territories if Hamas do not stop launching rockets after ending colonization

It so easy to go back to history and cherry pick violence from any side . For example Jewish kingdom did force conversion to Judaism and destroy villages , no jew should be hated for events like that just like Palestinians has no culpability in war happen in pogroms made by Arabs and even Christians .

Despite the mufti effort, most Arab sided with allies and not the Nazi Germany. 13k Palestinians volunteered to fight . There was Yemeni jews that migrated to Palestine and Palestinians and them was visiting each other festivities . During the Reconquista it was the ottoman and African speaking Arabic countries who accepted jews to the land they control

I don’t justify violence but there was violence because Palestinians started to realize Zionists intention to force a state on local people . During the violence there was also other Arabs protecting the jews. Like in Hebron massacres over 400 jews was saved by their Arab neighbors.

Once the state of Israel was created they could have lived in it but instead decided in 67 to occupy Gaza and west bank and started building settlements making a two state solution impossible

after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine - Ben Gurion

The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.” -  Menachem Begin

Every time Hamas launched rockets, it was in response to Israel expelling more Palestinians from the West Bank and to increased violence by settlers.

Please please oppose and put pressure on Israel occupation so atrocities end on both side

I wonder if they admit that other prime ministers been oppressing Palestinians too and resulted Hamas throwing rockets toward Israel

Do you have the same load of work with less work time?

Here an example of palestinians good relation with jewish imigrants in the emigrants from Yemen https://blog.nli.org.il/en/hoi_yemenite_aliyah/#%3A~%3Atext=The+proximity+to+the+Old%2Cto+sing+Yemenite+wedding+songs.

Violence only started when zionists exposed the occupation plan

When people who never commented on a single post about Israel committing crimes and then magically appear to say both side are terrible. I find it totally normal for people to think that person is disingenuous

I hope more people take example from you as most comments here mostly drained me from any will to continue with this issue, but yours is less confrontational and more informative.

You must understand that it’s easy to get emotional about a genocide occurring with very little things we can do

Where did i prove your point. I proved that the risk of bad thing happen to you is almost non existent

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/11/08/736837/Germany-passes-controversial-resolution-Israel

The non-binding motion, titled “Never Again is Now: Protecting, Preserving, and Strengthening Jewish Life in Germany”, calls for a ban on public funding for any group “that spreads anti-Semitism, calls into question Israel’s right to exist or calls for a boycott of Israel.”

Tocit focus on groups and organization not a random person on the internet on a niche social media

Why slurs like that are accepted? People have the right to like communism principles. It doesn"t mean every one who support that support autoritarian regime. Communism ideology is stateless

Interesting i am already following you

if saying historical fact making me justifying the death of civilians then you are justifying an society who 82% of them justify ethnic cleansing

Mandela was in the terrorist list too and like i said his party was responsible in civilians death. With your logic the dnc would had no right to fight the apartheid. Hamas is in the terrorist list for political reason. Only 40 out of 197 countries list it as a terrorist group. That doesn’t mean that i don’t think they committed any act of terrorism. If we apply the terrorism designation the usa , Canada , the British and the idf and any other countries responsible of war crimes would have been designed as terrorists

You may think that you don’t ignore history but all what you say proof otherwise without realizing it. Israel been oppressing Palestinians since it’s creation , every single prime minister was anti Palestinians and Israelis kept voting for those people . I don’t mean that they deserve to die but Israelis is not the perfect population that west want us to believe

Yes in an ideal world both leaders would be removed and replaced with ones that actually want a peaceful solution but we are in a practical world. History show us that occupation lead to justified and unjustified retaliation. History show us that the colonizer need to be weaken enough to accept the occupied independence and freedom and this only happen with sanctions and armed resistance .

Instead of waiting for things that will never happen Palestinians will keep support who fight occupation even if those who fight may oppress internal opposition. Hamas support is strong even in Gaza despite desperation. Hamas is even more popular in the west bank because they don’t live an as big hell as Gazans do

This is my view Israel should end occupation, a one or two state solution should happen and people responsible for atrocities on both side should be held accountable . This is the pragmatic way of seeing the problem

No , i am saying the hate was fueled by 57 years of occupation

Yes, you are hating was you used to be and you would never lie people to hate you