Here we are - 3600 which was still under manufacture 2-3 years ago are not get patched. Shame on you AMD, if it is true.

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    Tangent: If we started buying risc-v systems we might get to a point where they can actually compete.

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      That’s still far away from us as a consumer standpoint, but I’m eagerly waiting for a time when I could buy a RISC V laptop with atleast midrange computing capabalities

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        I‘m more on the builder/tinkerer side so I‘m pretty much in starting position with risc-v now. But yes, its going to be some time before any of it is user ready as a pc.

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        This is one of the hardest earned lessons I’ve ever learned, and I’ve had to learn it over and over again. I think it’s mostly stuck now but I still make the same mistake from time to time.

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        Yeah, thats the reason why we‘re in this capitalist hellhole. Perfection comes from billionaire money, nothing else.

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            I’m not buying hardware that doesn’t suit my needs as an investment hoping maybe it eventually will.

            You were misrepresenting things. Your needs have nothing to do with things not being functional. Something can be perfectly functional and not meet someones needs. Nobody said you should buy it as an investment.

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              My interpretation was by far the most generous to your position, because it’s the only way it’s coherent.

              If people bought [this hardware that doesn’t actually provide anything anyone can realistically use at a reasonable price] it might eventually not suck. That’s treating a current purchase as an imaginary investment in maybe eventually being able to buy something useful.

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                My interpretation was by far the most generous to your position, because it’s the only way it’s coherent.

                You’re entitled to your opinion, I guess.

                hardware that doesn’t actually provide anything anyone can realistically use

                Thats misrepresenting reality and making assumptions while clearly showing lack of expertise

                at a reasonable price

                Thats completely arbitrary. If a price is reasonable or not depends on many factors. Obvious oversymplification.

                That’s treating a current purchase as an imaginary investment in maybe eventually being able to buy something useful.

                This shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. Small companies and open source projects depend on people buying their products instead of cheaper, sometimes better performing products of big conglomerates for other reasons than price alone.

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                  Value is absolutely not arbitrary.

                  “Reasonable” means comparable with x86/ARM at the same performance level. Anything more is, by definition, not capable of being reasonably priced.

                  You’re again advocating for an imaginary investment in a bad product.

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                    Yeah no. Forget it. We‘re not speaking the same language.

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        I really enjoyed watching it. Thanks for referring to it.

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        Interesting! Thanks for chiming in. I‘ll read up about it.

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      I’m waiting to see how DeepComputing’s RISC-V mainboard for the Framework turns out. I’m aware that this is very much a development platform and far from an actual end-user product, but if the price is right, I might jump in to experiment.

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        Sounds like a cool idea! :)