• hauiOPMA
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    2 days ago

    I dont actually think its a problem once we abandon the broken system. I think its an addiction like every other.

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        No. I dont. Addiction is a symptom, not a disease. The disease is the corrupt, broken system and seeing addiction means people actually react to it. What we need to do now is work to get people dismantle this system. California seems to be on the right track, other groups in other countries are also recruiting massively. Lets see where that leads.

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          Does this apply to all addictions like hard drugs, for example? Do you separate physiological and psychological addiction into two separate categories or do you combine them into one?

          Trying to quit a hardcore Benzo or alcohol addiction can be fatal if not weened off, for example.

          I would put reasons for starting a drug habit and continuation of a drug habit in two different categories.

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            Yes, of course. All addictions, despite the of course possible genetic predisposition and personal preference are a product of the surrounding system. If people have a shitty life and/or have no achievable goals, the danger of falling into such traps explodes statistically.

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              I don’t think that’s universally true. I think a lot of drug use starts with the people who someone associates with; if they use drugs, then you are more likely to join in than if you were never exposed to it in that way.

              There is also the “cool” factor with children, like cigarettes (in the past), vaping, weed pens, etc.

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                You can of course argue that but you cant back it up. For that you would need to strip the system around the person which you cant. This means you cant know if that person who me someone who uses drugs would have gone the same way if the system wasnt shit.

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                  People have been using drugs like alcohol since before humans even existed (I’m counting neanderthals as people here), so systemic issues can’t be the only reason why people use drugs, as neanderthals didn’t really form societies. There are even animals other than humans who consume fermented fruit to get drunk, probably just because it feels good.

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                    You’re mixing things up.

                    The pure use of drugs like alcohol (especially naturally occuring) has zero to do with addiction, which we were discussing.

                    Addiction stems from multiple factors. There needs to be opportunity (which even in prohibition exists), genetic factor (optional) and reason. The reason is arguably the biggest factor and while a person could technically just love slowly killing themselves, the numbers show that addiction rates are far higher if people are poor and unhealthy in the beginning, which is another sidehustle of capitalism.

                    So yes, its all capitalism.