• hauiA
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    Have you tried installing literally any debian based system recently? Works without a single command.

    • @nfsu2@feddit.cl
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      211 days ago

      Many other Arch based too, even if it against Arch’s philosophy. Just click “yes” and “next” a bunch of times and you are ready.

      • hauiA
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        111 days ago

        I think the purists need to accept that users are valid too. :) good that some distros seem to understand that.

        • @embed_me@programming.dev
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          111 days ago

          It is a checkbox in ubuntu. I don’t remember it being there for debian although I used it a few years ago so it might be a new change

      • hauiA
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        111 days ago

        Yeah no. Thats not the case for everyone. Debian itself also is a little more tricky than say pop!os.

    • @kuneho@lemmy.world
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      211 days ago

      welp, I still need to add myself to the sudo group and sudoers file, and that’s something I need a root shell for. (unless I always miss some options during setup to make my user automatically a sudoer)

      • hauiA
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        111 days ago

        Fair enough. Although technically the system works without that. Just not for long maybe?

        • @kuneho@lemmy.world
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          111 days ago

          I mean it’s Debian, it’s stable, it should work without ever updating your system :P

          (though one could always log in as root in a separate session, too…)

      • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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        111 days ago

        You did. If you leave your root password blank it’ll automatically add the user account you create in the following step to sudo and disable the root account.

        If you want to have both a root account and a user account with sudo, you’ll have to do that manually, but that’s a pretty unusual setup.

        • @kuneho@lemmy.world
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          111 days ago

          oh wow, I did not know this

          but that’s a pretty unusual setup

          Nor this, but you are right if I think about it.

          • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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            111 days ago

            Yeah, general practice is to either elevate privelige by switching accounts, or by using sudo. Having both just increases your attack surface to no practical benefit (especially since you can technically still switch to a root account with “sudo - i” even if you’re going the sudo route).

            • @kuneho@lemmy.world
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              I used mostly Windows systems primarily and I guess I just adapted that habit of having an Administrator account for when shit goes down, and my own user account that has admin rights.

              It’s just convenient. I liked my Administrator account as clean as possible, and I do the same in Linux with root. There is its time and place where I need root.

              But you are right, I should change my habits. I’m not even sure how sudo and rights and environments and sessions and god knows what works exactly behind the scenes, so probably, maybe, there are technical differences too in the way I use these and the way how I should… I don’t know.

              Anyway, thanks for the info.