Banned for ‘Internet Slapfight’ despite the vast majority of my comments being to debunk Hasbara, and disengaging from a Zionist troll when the attacks went from disinformation to personal
Post:
https://lemmy.world/post/30244778
Luckily none of my comments pertaining to the actual issue at hand got deleted, but how this somehow warrants a ban is completely ridiculous.
I do want to promote some better World News comms:
!altmedia@altmedia.house Avoid due to their support of white Nationalist propagandist Tucker Carlson. See https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/19034187
For obvious reasons I won’t be engaging with the lw world news, nor be able to debunk any hasbara there that aims to justify this genocide one way or another
I disagree that it violated community guidelines, as per Rule 5 I did not attack the person, but the substance of the disinformation. Use of strong language is allowed per that rule as long as it’s not directed at a person which I didn’t, it was directed at the disinformation.
I don’t think it’s reasonable for me to need to check in with a mod before I respond to Zionist disinformation on world@world.news, there is way too much allowed that go unchecked by the mods themselves.
If a mod was concerned I was crossing a line and messaged me about it, I would’ve complied. I certainly agree with you about what the mod action should have been if there was concern about civility.
JordanLund has already defended the suppression of Palestinian emancipatory slogans in the past. I can’t say I’m too surprised by his actions here with that in mind.
I definitely agree with your last paragraph. If that communities’ mods would prefer to provide a safe space liberal Zionist propaganda because they perceive it as civil, that’s their decision. I have no regrets about my comments on that thread.
I mean, obviously you disagree, or you wouldn’t be here
All I’m saying is that telling someone to “fuck off with that shit” is going to draw mod attention when there’s a civility rule in place. There’s pretty much nowhere on earth that telling someone to fuck off with that shit is considered friendly.
Yes, there are times it’s justified, but pretending that it isn’t also uncivil is sophistry at best. It doesn’t even matter if someone else starts it, once a slap fight is on, it’s on and anyone joining in is contributing to the problem.
Did you report the other user’s comments? Because that’s the first step we’re supposed to take. Then the second is walking away. Now, again, I agree that sometimes you can’t just walk away. If you scroll back far enough in my user history, you’ll find a recent-ish situation where I tore into a transphobic asshole and was even less civil than anything you said.
I wasn’t walking away, and I was definitely justified. But I’m not going to pretend I wasn’t breaking a civility rule in the process, and if I’d gotten banned, I’d have been just fine with it because sometimes that’s the price you pay. You accept that as part and parcel of protest and resistance because that’s how it works. Hell, it’s part of the point. If you can’t take the heat of your own choices, you’re making bad choices.
Well said.