As LLMs become the go-to for quick answers, fewer people are posting questions on forums or social media. This shift could make online searches less fruitful in the future, with fewer discussions and solutions available publicly. Imagine troubleshooting a tech issue and finding nothing online because everyone else asked an LLM instead. You do the same, but the LLM only knows the manual, offering no further help. Stuck, you contact tech support, wait weeks for a reply, and the cycle continues—no new training data for LLMs or new pages for search engines to index. Could this lead to a future where both search results and LLMs are less effective?

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    LLMs are the big block V8 of search engines. They can do things very fast and consume tons of resources with subterranean efficiency. On top of that, they are privacy invasive, easy to use for manipulation and speed up the problem of less mature users being spoon fed. General purpose LLMs need to be outlawed immediately.

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        Right. How about csam, incest, cannibalism?

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            Glad you agree. Non arguments are not a good idea.

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                You made a blanket statement and now you’re angry because someone called you out on it. I get that. But i dont care. Please dont make blanket statements like that. Thats not a good way of debating stuff.

                Of course outlawing of stuff is good in certain cases. And LLMs (and AI in general) as a public tool, exploited for profit, isn’t good for humanity. It sucks energy like crazy, produces bullshit results, diseducates people and further benefits the capitalist class.

                It’s just not okay to have that. I would have gone with an argument that goes “but how about for personal use on your own computer?” Then I would say I can see that being okay, as long as it doesnt permanently increase everyones personal power usage because that is the same as if you had giant centralized AIs.

                See? You can argue against my point without making self defeating statements.

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                    If that is all that you read in my answer I dont think we have anything to discuss anymore. Good luck.

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            Thanks for showing that you have no actual arguments.

            LLMs are inherently bad for society in their current form. They have no real benefit. They push capital extraction and further increase the pressure on workers. They have insane energy requirements, insane hardware requirements. We are working on saving our planet and can absolutely not spare the massive amounts of energy required for this shit.

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                You just showed again that you have no actual arguments. You’re using populism to “win” against factually correct and provable statements.

                Using anecdotal evidence is a cheap trick and I believe you know it. It’s not evidence at all. Numbers show that I’m right and you’re wrong in this case.

                “Think of the children” is used as a thought stopper by the political right to push their laws against humanity through. It isnt as smart as you think to wrongly ascribe it. I was right and showed it, you cant live with it. Thats okay.

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                    You know I’m right and try to troll because you either dont like it or have an agenda. In both cases, thats a you problem.

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                I haven’t looked into many LLMs, but Microsoft will use your data for training the next version of Copilot. If you’re a paying enterprise customer, then your data won’t be used for that.

                I suspect Google is also using every bit of data they can get their hands on. They have a habit of handing out shiny new stuff in exchange for your data. That’s exactly why Android and Chrome don’t require your money.