All from in this thread in !world@lemmy.world about a chant at a British music festival where an artist said “death, death to the IDF”.
After other users were quoting that chant in the comments and had comments removed and banned, the hero of our story, @theacharnian@lemmy.ca (appearing as “acargitz”) pointed out that under international law, fighting an occupying force is legitimate. But apparently not under world news rules, as their removed comments and the many explanations from mods make clear in the thread.
Equally against the rules is the call for the eradication of an organisation or business, even without an explicit call to violence against individual members of the business.
In the same thread: user @DeathToTheIDF@lemmings.world had comments removed for being anti-American “(again)”, though I couldn’t see the first time. It’s not even clear to me how the removed comments were anti-American.
Bonus points for the “DC Comics” removal reason. Though this seems to be incompetence, rather than malice.
@jordanlund@lemmy.world you’re answering other things up and down the thread, but I haven’t heard from you. After this explanation do you still maintain that this post, that was apparently the straw that broke the camel’s back and got me banned, was “advocating violence”?
Sorry, I’m being deluged with replies and I’m honestly TRYING to get to everyone.
You landed a temp ban (only 1 day left!) for repeatedly advocating violence. You were warned, and came back again.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=73704
First comment removed:
mod
Removed Comment I’m advocating for the right of the Palestians to fight for their freedom. Do you deny that right? And for good measure, if I advocate for Ukrainians to fight for their freedom, VIOLENTLY, WITH GUNS, AND WITH KILLING OFF THE INVADERS TO THEIR HOMELAND, am I also breaking the TOS? If I say that my god damn ancestors DID THE RIGHT THING and KILLED WITH VIOLENCE AND GUNS the Italian fascists that invaded Greece in 1940, does THAT break the TOS? by acargitz@lemmy.ca
reason: Advocating violence.
You were warned and came back again:
Removed Comment Death to Israeli apartheid. Death to the institutions that uphold the Israeli Apartheid. Death to the institutions that uphold the occupation, the disposession and the genocide of Palestinians. Death to the structures that maim the humanity of both the colonizers and the colonized. Long live all the people who live in Palestine from the river to the sea. Long live the children, the life, all children, all life, Muslim, Jewish, Christian, and other. Palestinian, Druze, Bedouin, Samaritan, Mizrahi, Ashkenaz, Sephardic, and other. “The padrone is dead. But Alfredo Berlingheri is alive and we mustn’t kill him. […] Because he is living proof that the padrone is dead.” by acargitz@lemmy.ca
reason: Repeated calls for violence
You called for death FOUR TIMES after being told not to advocate for violence. So, yeah, 3 day ban.
Put on your big boy pants and deal with it.
I like how you quote the thing that proves you wrong and say “hey, this proves me right.”
Rule 6: Do not advocate violence.
Removed comment #1:
“I advocate for Ukrainians to fight for their freedom, VIOLENTLY, WITH GUNS”
“DID THE RIGHT THING and KILLED WITH VIOLENCE AND GUNS”
bzzt - Removed.
Removed comment #2, following being warned, which earned the temp ban:
"Death to…
Death to…
Death to…
Death to… "
What part of no advocating violence is fucking unclear to you assholes? No, we aren’t going to let users call for Death.
Lol, zero engagement with my actual argument. Ok buddy, hope you get a breather.
I never saw an admit as dumb as him with dogmatic thinking.
Your argument is irrelevant. You called for death in two separate comments. It’s right there in black and white. You can’t deny it, it’s preserved in the modlog.
1 day left on the temp ban. Be better when you come back.
For fuck’s sake, It’s not the ban I care about.
Man, this is hopeless. You’ve pigeonholed me, made up your mind and that’s it. You perceive this whole interaction as me moaning about the ban, so you dismiss anything I have to say and talk down on me. This isn’t a discussion for you, there is no chance to communicate here anything. Bah.
No, there is no discussion when what you wrote is 100% clear. Where we go from here is entirely up to you.
Keep your nose clean in the communities I mod and we’ll have no problem. You might even find I’m on your side more often than you think.
Revert to calling for violence again and you’ll get bounced with a quickness.