You know, I don’t question what you have said; however, this group chat has put many asterisks on this whole situation. I believe one person in that chat has said something to the effect of: “remember the narrative, Biden’s fault and Iran backed.” Makes me less sure about the whole story and motivations.
I mean I’m sure the Trump admin has alternate motives, since they lie about everything, but the US has definitely been bombing the Houthis in Yeman since at least 2016.
It’s always going to be Bidens fault, and Obama’s fault, and Clinton’s fault. Whether it’s terrorism or egg prices or the economy or <insert whatever issue here>
Exactly, also Houthi attacks on ships flared up when Israel started the Palestinian-genocide.
Of course no party is innocent, but people always blaming Iran is rather bizarre.
The question is, is it the fault of “evil Iran”. Or is it multiple parties fighting eachother, and they all share blame. Obviously Iran sides with the Shia minority in Yemen. What do you suggest they do, leave the entire Middle East to the US/Israel/Saudis? If the response here is “evil Iran”, then we’re missing the bigger picture. The Saudis, the US, Israel, Iran, everyone backs all sorts of groups wether it’s in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or Yemen. The frame of Iran as an evil agrssor country and for instance Israel as an innocent victim is in fact, rather bizarre. And why do we NEVER talk about the Saudis? Perhaps because it happens to be our ally and we like their oil? Oh no but Iran is evil, so they are and always have to remain our enemy. They all share blame for the mess that’s been created in the Middle East. As long as the frame is “the enemy is evil” we’ll never find common ground, move beyond all these proxy wars. Of course Iran is also to blame, but Iran is also protecting legitimate Shia interests.
The “funny” thing is always when Saudi and Irani diplomats at some point go “hey at the moment this whole proxy war thing really isnt working for us, could we please work together for a while?” and then most of the pointless killing and attacking in the middle east stops for a while.
And you realize once again that they are not actually enemies to death or anything like that. For them, it’s just a “power struggle” for influence in the region.
You know, I don’t question what you have said; however, this group chat has put many asterisks on this whole situation. I believe one person in that chat has said something to the effect of: “remember the narrative, Biden’s fault and Iran backed.” Makes me less sure about the whole story and motivations.
I mean I’m sure the Trump admin has alternate motives, since they lie about everything, but the US has definitely been bombing the Houthis in Yeman since at least 2016.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/13/us-enters-yemen-war-bombing-houthis-who-launched-missiles-at-navy-ship
Here’s an article from the Guardian dated in late 2016 announcing the US first strike on the rebel group.
If you’re not sure about the story and motiviations, did you spend any time on looking up what actually happens in Yemen?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/22/every-shot-fired-are-yemens-houthis-a-proxy-force-for-iran
And Vance said something to the effect of, he didn’t want to do it because it would benefit Europe more than it would benefit America.
It’s always going to be Bidens fault, and Obama’s fault, and Clinton’s fault. Whether it’s terrorism or egg prices or the economy or <insert whatever issue here>
But that doesn’t excuse Iran’s behavior either.
The country that is constantly bombed by Isntreal or harrassed by the US?
Exactly, also Houthi attacks on ships flared up when Israel started the Palestinian-genocide. Of course no party is innocent, but people always blaming Iran is rather bizarre.
even the Arab press concludes that Iran is illegally backing the Houthi
I have no doubt in my mind that they do.
The question is, is it the fault of “evil Iran”. Or is it multiple parties fighting eachother, and they all share blame. Obviously Iran sides with the Shia minority in Yemen. What do you suggest they do, leave the entire Middle East to the US/Israel/Saudis? If the response here is “evil Iran”, then we’re missing the bigger picture. The Saudis, the US, Israel, Iran, everyone backs all sorts of groups wether it’s in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or Yemen. The frame of Iran as an evil agrssor country and for instance Israel as an innocent victim is in fact, rather bizarre. And why do we NEVER talk about the Saudis? Perhaps because it happens to be our ally and we like their oil? Oh no but Iran is evil, so they are and always have to remain our enemy. They all share blame for the mess that’s been created in the Middle East. As long as the frame is “the enemy is evil” we’ll never find common ground, move beyond all these proxy wars. Of course Iran is also to blame, but Iran is also protecting legitimate Shia interests.
the Saudis are the problem
their oil, IS the problem
their strangle hold on their religion is why they are fighting with Iran. It’s the Troubles on a much higher scale.
stupid rich assholes fighting over the religion while ganging up to throw shots at the mutual ancient enemy religion of the region
The “funny” thing is always when Saudi and Irani diplomats at some point go “hey at the moment this whole proxy war thing really isnt working for us, could we please work together for a while?” and then most of the pointless killing and attacking in the middle east stops for a while.
And you realize once again that they are not actually enemies to death or anything like that. For them, it’s just a “power struggle” for influence in the region.