Transcription (of iMessage exchange): “Hi, is this Paul?
Who is this
This is Erica from the dentist’s office. I got your number from your file
Pretty sure this violates Hippo but shoot your shot I guess
I’m not flirting with you. We have you on video stealing thousands of dollars of x-ray equipment”
That’s trump level defense - you can’t take me to court for stealing because that violates my Hippo rights
That’s how it works actually - if you break the law while making the case, your case is invalid.
Thats why this needs to change.
If you commited murder and someone breaks the law to get you, you should still get convicted.
But the person breaking the law should have no immunity either and face the consequences of their actions. But if the person abused a position of power (police, politician, etc) they should face twice the punishment, one time for breaking the law and a second time for doing so in a trusted office.
The person you’re replying to isn’t correct. Police and prosecutors can’t break the law to make a case. If you exceed the speed limit while trailing a killer, they don’t get to go free.
That’s ridiculous. Detectives would have to sit there and do the math “is it worth me going to jail for 12 months to strengthen my case against X”?
No. The Justice system literally stands for justice. People working for it should not be committing crimes in its name as if the ends justify the means.
If the people working for the Justice system routinely commit crimes and are rewarded for it, you don’t have a justice system. This is literally why people are so mad at the police right now. The police constantly commit crimes and are not punished for it
I agree. Justice also for those dealing it out, obviously.
But my point wasnt „this and nothin else“ but „this is worth looking at“.
Currently, if you have committed murder and the fact got known due to a search that wasnt done correctly, you‘re free. Not everything is black and white.
We can agree that murder means jail and the people who might have done wrong finding it out get their own consequences (which they currently dont either).
That’s how you’ll end up in jail for no reason. If there’s no due process, anyone can Photoshop you in a crime scene for lulz. The law works as it should.
Yeah right. Thats why we have the situation we‘re in. Because the law works like it should.
Look at statistics of poc incarceration rates or other minorities as well as false convictions.
The law is always improvable as everything else is.
But to my original point, falsifying evidence does not mean you can convict someone based on that. It just means the person does not automatically go free, just that the person who did it goes away for a long time.
Please name examples if you think that there is a real benefit from letting someone go free for bad evidence except smart lawyers getting rich people off easily.
Some criminals tried to steal my mom’s flat through the court and a bit of corruption. That didn’t fly because she fought back, showed there was no due process and the national court put these fucks into jail, as well as punishing a corrupt judge.
If there were no laws regulating the process, she’d be homeless. So, go fuck yourself.
The first part was totally understandable and I am happy that your mom won that.
Your fault is that you assume that not having a “the house search where we found you’ve killed 20 people was illegal so have a good life” dismissal of evidence means we have no due process at all. This is called improvement of a running system.
And the last sentence is the reason I reported you. You sad person.