• _number8_@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    even if working those jobs is easy upfront, that doesn’t mean it’s easy to do it 40 hrs a week. and they certainly require skills some people don’t have. construction is hard on the body / bad hours (but i feel like it’d be meditative and build strength), restaurants are stressful as hell (but build your ability to work under real tangible pressure), delivery puts you at risk of dying on the road (and makes you a more experienced driver), etc.

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    7 months ago

    Unskilled means you don’t need prior skills before being hired. That’s all.

    It doesn’t mean someone doesn’t become proficient, or even great at the job while they have it.

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      7 months ago

      As a person with a fucked up back, a strong back is a skill. Don’t tell me ditch diggers and porters don’t have skills.

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        7 months ago

        You can teach a ditch digger the skills to dig a ditch the day you hire them. Hence they are an unskilled hire.

        A strong back is an ability.

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          7 months ago

          So what you’re saying is it takes a day to reach someone the skills to be a ditch digger?

          So it’s skilled labor?

          They’re unskilled when they get hired, skilled after a day of training. Might not be a lot of skill required, but that’s still not 0

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    7 months ago

    Except it’s literally just an economics term referring to positions that can be reasonably learned through on the job training with little or no prior experience.

    Stuff like this just muddies and distracts the conversation from the true issue, which is that those jobs deserve a living wage.

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    7 months ago

    I’ve always found it ridiculous how farmers are considered unskilled. Like just anyone can balance on a moving trailer while throwing hay bailes around. It’s just soo easy to take a tractor apart and back together again because a gasket blew. It’s so easy to have a biggillion different skills varying from field to field. Literally everyone I know can run a mile while carrying a sailt lick. Farmers are just dumb and untalented. Am I right. /S

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      7 months ago

      Are you confusing farmers with farm labourers? One runs a highly specialist business, one just needs to pick strawberries.

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          7 months ago

          …and yet, (almost) everyone has a back and a pair of feet. Hence, unskilled. Doesn’t matter much if it’s Elon Musk, my next door neighbor or some teen from Thailand picking strawberries. The value of their input labour will be the same in this context.