• wewbull@feddit.uk
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    3 days ago

    Radical right and radical left. You should be wary of both of them because they are radical.

    • Radical plans often need to be enforced to be accepted
    • Enforcing political will is authoritarian.
    • I’m anti-authoritarian above everything else.
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      The current center was extremely radical for most of human history. And if you think that centrist politics don’t need to be enforced then I would encourage you to pick up a history book.

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      The current center was extremely radical for most of human history. And if you think that centrist politics don’t need to be enforced then I would encourage you to pick up a history book.

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      Ah, a “centrist”. So how much killing of people is central enough for you? How much genocide?

      The idea of “radical = bad” is a trick. It’s got zero to do with reality.

      Example: depending on where you ask, radical means entirely different things. Read about the overtone window.

      That said, radical leftism is about human rights. It is about destroying hierarchies between people. In short it means: everyone gets what they need and does what they can. Or “food, water, housing are inalienable rights.”

      The radical right is about superiorism. White power, discrimination and ultimately destruction of what they view as “lesser” be it people who look different, have different ancestral history etc.

      And you think its smart to compromise between the two? I suggest reading books.

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        So how much killing of people is central enough for you? How much genocide?

        Very non-radical actions you asking me to support.

        From all of that I get that you’re someone who thinks it’s left Vs right. Two positions, Two ends of a line. If you’re not at one end, you’re at the other and what lies in-between (if anything) is grey, cowardly, compromising, compliant lemmings.

        …and you’re telling me to read books? This is the most juvenile and laziest of political thinking. You need to grow beyond thinking anyone that doesn’t agree with you must either be the enemy or a collaborator. At least get past one-dimensional thinking.

        And it’s the Overton window (not “overtone”) after Joseph Overton, a US libertarian and free-market supporter. He came up with the concept to describe how think-tanks should manipulate public opinion to consider what was previously unthinkable, particularly in a free-market direction. Of course, that’s all lost now it’s become part of pop-politics.

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          You’re funny.

          I said we should not compromise on these things, you’re trying to make a strawman, and badly.

          You started with the left vs right debate and are attacking me ad hominem with it.

          Your way of discussion is massively out of line and very condescending.

          Also, trying to top my point of the overtone (its not important if i spell it correctly, get over yourself) window is childish, while you’re accusing me of being exactly that. That was massively ableist too.

          You’re the exact reason why people with a brain dont like centrists. They’re just fashists undercover. The same attack methods, the same disregard for human rights and decency.

          Next you say feminists, vegans or climatechange activists are hurting the cause because they’re “too loud”. Honestly, people in the thousands die every day because people like you say " what can you do?!" Instead of “maybe we stop that”

          Anyway. As you can imagine, i dont allow people with less than decent communication style in my feed. So go spill your poison somewhere else.