Recently joined and started a community for people who want to move away from Lemmy and want to see Lemmy loosen its stranglehold on the threadiverse, if that seems like something interesting to you consider checking out !cancel_lemmy@piefed.social
Recently joined and started a community for people who want to move away from Lemmy and want to see Lemmy loosen its stranglehold on the threadiverse, if that seems like something interesting to you consider checking out !cancel_lemmy@piefed.social
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People can always find problems if they look hard enough, lol. There are probably some legitimate complaints about Lemmy, but nothing is perfect. I find their messaging weird though. Like, you can be pro Piefed without having to be anti Lemmy. Seems needlessly combative to me.
The problems with the Lemmy developers though is plain on the face of it. Problematic political and social positions. And then demanding that donations must go towards furthering those problematic political and social positions. Because they think they found this one weird trick that nobody can argue with. Their Flagship server is the political server. It’s not lemmy.org after all.
Not to mention that the admins of the server moderate more than most the moderators on the server. There is no free speech. It doesn’t matter how moderate or respectful you are. If you go against the narrative you will be banned.
Development wise they are also vanguard minded. Does the userbase want features the devs aren’t working on? That’s too bad. The devs are going to work on what they want to work on. Whether or not that’s a good thing. Which can sometimes it can be. It also has led to a number of people reluctant to contribute. The childish cliquesh behavior.
You’re not always going to agree with the politics and views of the people who write the software you use. And that is okay. But when they mix the two it’s not wrong to have issues with that.
I think you nailed it. For me personally, if I move to PieFed, it’s not because I want to “hurt” the devs, it’s because I really don’t want to be part of what they stand for.
That and it speaks to a lack of maturity and professionalism which doesn’t inspire confidence in the project.
There’s no need to hurt the devs for sure though. They do that well enough on their own.
I keep forgetting about the dev issues, lol. Deffo legitimate problems one might have with a software for sure. I don’t run into that a lot over here on Lemmy.ca though, which is nice.
I stand by my assessment though. It’s still weird to me to promote one thing by shooting down another. Feels too much like politics in North America to me. They could have made a “Support Piefed” community instead.
I agree, this whole idea of canceling Lemmy is weird and just feels reactionary. Also Piefed running on Python doesn’t seem like something that can scale well nor something that can be perpetually worked on for the long haul without running into issues with new python releases and compatibility with them.
Piefed being written in python means nothing.
Instagram and threads (and parts of the clusterfuck that is facebook) are written in python and seem to have scaled fine.
Performance is negligable – the main bottleneck is I/O.
If a new python release breaks compatibility, Piefed can keep using the old version of python.
To not support genocide denying, transphobic, authoritarian developers.
Devs are more active and adding features users/mods need.
We’re still all on the same Fediverse able to communicate, we’re just using more ‘ethical’ software.
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Since both platform communicating with each other genocide deniers would also be shown on piefed
The Lemmy devs are the genocide deniers.
Many users are also genocide deniers
That’s a strange comparison. I imagine someone who objects to the politics of the lemmy developers would also object to similar political expression said by anyone.
There are a huge number of lemmy users who are genocide deniers and hate many other things , including lemmy.ml and the developers
I agree, canceling a software over that is just purely reactionary, an opensource software no less.
The developers of Lemmy also run lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml, the former being a hardcore communist anti-everything delusional conspiracy crapshoot of a platform, the latter a tiny bit more relaxed, but moderated/administered by a bunch of dicks that are essentially also tankies (= hardcore leftists) and Russia fans/apologists.
They (the devs) recently asked for funding to support their work, and in doing so, disclosed that part of the funding would be used to run those two instances, thus giving users no alternative to support without cross-financing extremism.
Piefed is developed independently and has none of those links to moronic ideologies.
Piefed as a platform uses the same underlying protocol as lemmy, mastodon, etc. (Activity Hub), so users can seamlessly interact with one another.
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theres only a few real reasons… lemmy does not have a lot of ‘microblog’ features (50% of the fediverse)… you cant, for example, follow mastodon accounts or have them follow you.
other platforms also add missing lemmy features over the same data. mbin has the equivilent of reddits karma in the form of ‘reputation’
Because Lemmy’s Devs have extremely problematic positions and Lemmy as a software is severely lacking in features which other platforms like Piefed have. Lemmy is just a poor experience, but also Lemmy fosters dependency due to it’s widespread use, meaning it’s harder for people and servers to branch out into other platforms.