• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    Do they think that “conspiratorial” means “believing in conspiracy theories”? Because it doesn’t.

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    A Middle Eastern country having the Right to Defend itself? ABSURD! UNLESS it’s Israel Defending themselves from STARVING CHILDREN!

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      Those 17 pages worth of babies they murdered in the first 6 months of the Gaza Genocide were all Hamas!!!

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    “Hey this just happened everyone can see it.”

    “Typical conspiracy theorist”

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      I’m sure they’d say they mean Israel as a state.

      In any event, I personally wouldn’t support the other interpretation but karma is a bitch and so is cyclical violence.

      In the literally impossible event it happens (Israel has nukes and everyone knows it) I’ll have exactly as much sympathy for them as I do for citizens of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.

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        Jesus. Well maybe let’s stick to not doing or advocating for huge amounts of murder. Even if half the country has fallen for the propaganda they still have kids and family.

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          Israeli President Herzog said that “there are no innocents in Gaza” and the “entire nation is responsible”. This was just one of a litany of openly genocidal statements made by senior Israeli leaders. One former Likud MP said that babies are targets.

          There are now likely hundreds of thousands of people, mainly women and children, killed by this regime. Hundreds of thousands more are being starved to death.

          Funnily enough the ADL, and Western media, don’t have much, if anything, to say about that.

          So I think it’s understandable people are angry and want to see this despotic, depraved and murderous regime wiped off the map.

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          The post is not literal. It is a jab at Israelis and Israeli leadership who openly and publicly expressed genocidal intent toward Palestinians after Oct 7. The post uses their same language and redirects it back at Israel, after Israel initiated the war against Iran.

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          So do all the people they’re actively killing while talking about how they can’t wait to kill the rest of their neighbors. Sucks to suck.

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              Don’t want your kids bombed?

              Don’t bomb other kids, war is hell,

              Sucks

              To

              Suck

              Fun Fact: the majority of the population of Gaza before the genocide was under 18.

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                Wow. Real psychopath energy. I vote for not murder children in retaliation or initially. Tell me you’ve never seen a family member bleed out or someone begging for their life when you can’t do shit about it without telling me. Fucking people advocating for death they’ll never see and have never seen equal to. Literally disgusting.

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                  Agreed, justifying or advocating for indiscriminate murder (including of children) and dehumanising others to justify any possible horror, that’s a hallmark of genocidal rhetoric.

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        You seem like an expert. I guess I agree we should kill civilians until they submit.

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          Yes that’s absolutely what i was proposing.

          They definitely care very deeply about civilian lives.

          Though, i do have to question your record. Did you give a shit about this a week ago?

          Edit: hey, also, can you think of another way to stop them, or are you just opposed to doing that? Because, i know this is controversial, but i think world war three would be bad. We might even end up with a couple dead civilians if that hapoens.

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      This is what some people mean when they say from the river to the sea. Both sides have been wanting to annihilate the other for quite some time now.

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    Iran has a right to exist

    When the Council of Rabbis falls and the population of enslaved Zionists is liberated and allowed to return to their native countries, Iran will be greated as a liberator.

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      tf? What ‘native countries’ do you think exist to people that have been citizens of a different sovereign country since at least 1948? Will they return to Czechoslovakia? Or maybe Yugoslavia?

      I’m also sure that the Austro-Hungarian Empire would be chomping at the bit to restore citizenship. Someone tell the Ottomans that the Habsburgs are on the march again.

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        What ‘native countries’ do you think exist to people that have been citizens of a different sovereign country since at least 1948?

        Nearly half of all Israeli Jews are descended from immigrants from the European Jewish diaspora. Approximately the same number are descended from immigrants from Arab countries, Iran, Turkey and Central Asia. Over 200,000 are of Ethiopian and Indian-Jewish descent.

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          1. A 2019 estimate suggested that about 10 percent of Israelis held more than one passport

          Source: https://www.dualcitizenshipreport.org/dual-citizenship/israel/

          1. Population is Israel roughly 9.5m. Rough math = 1m with dual citizenships. Add another mill (or even better, 2m) that could qualify for another passport.

          What do you want to do with the remaining few (only 6m or so) that have no grounds to qualify for another citizenship?

          I don’t want my sarcasm to be overlooked. Your core argument is that someone’s ethnicity should be enough for then to ‘fall back on’ should their country cease to exist. And further, that they would congratulate the party responsible for invalidating their country. That’s a stupid and petty argument.

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            They can also remain in Palestine and live alongside native Palestinians or return to their home countries under the right of return.

            The point is that ethnic jews would no longer have the exclusive right of self-determination in Palestine.

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            What do you want to do with the remaining few (only 6m or so) that have no grounds to qualify for another citizenship?

            Establish Right of Return in host nations through UN treaty. In the meantime, they can take advantage of our - as I am told - overly generous refugee system.