The data is coming from the world’s largest democracy perception study, published by the Alliance of Democracies Foundation (a Danish-based non-profit organisation).
The data is coming from the world’s largest democracy perception study, published by the Alliance of Democracies Foundation (a Danish-based non-profit organisation).
Lol that must be true for some country somewhere, but China is not it, no matter how much even I would like it to be true.
It is true, though. The PRC’s economy is extrenely industrialized and focused on exporting commodities, western countries use financial domination and strategic underdevelopment of the Global South to get cheap commodities. The West doesn’t produce as much as it takes, China produces for itself and sells the excess to others.
In my country we produce for ourselves and sell the excess too… Still not even close to a socialist utopia though…
Every country exports and imports, that’s not what I’m talking about. Private monopoly Capital in western countries extends and carves out the value created in the Global South. The PRC is far more industrialized than any Western Country, it doesn’t engage in Imperialism. Here’s a good article on Imperialism.
Further, nobody said China was a Utopia. It’s a developing Socialist country, Socialism isn’t some holy status that makes all who live in it live magical lives, it’s a mode of production. China has a long way to go, but Socialism is why it has had the success it has so far.
I see, well, that means I must be already living in some kind of socialist utopia then. That’s nice!
No, you don’t, nobody does, there are no “utopias.” Further, Socialism is not the absence of Imperialism, it’s a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, not private ownership. There are no Socialist western countries, and all countries we think of as the “west” participate in this system of Imperialism dominated by the US Empire.
Well if China is a socialist developing country and the living conditions are inferior than what i have here, this must be an even more advanced socialist society, basically an utopi.
Socialism doesn’t mean “good living conditions,” Socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, not private ownership. Further, if you are living in a western country, you are living in a country that benefits from Imperialism, and has not had to liberate itself from colonialism and subjugation.
This is just silly, I really don’t know what point you’re trying to make other than being intentionally obtuse.
Oh wow, so the Chinese people own the means of production?
Which other countries does China exploit?
Are you serious? China is an imperialist country like most others that are that big.
Tell me who they’ve exploited. Go on.
Africa.
China is mining Africa. They lend money to local governments, make them build infrastructure to mine natural resources, and then let the countries spiral into never ending debt.
One could argue that it’s money used to invest in local production, but the real cash is making stuff from raw resources (In China). Also the fact it’s China lending the money and taking mineral rights and infrastructure as collateral is, well, colonialism.
Examples: Kenya, Zambia.
Open a web browser, go to your preferred search engine and start documenting youself.
lmao, you literally can’t even name one
I can handle you being stupid, but do you really gotta be this lazy?
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The answer is that they don’t.
You haven’t searched then, because it’s pretty easy to find that info, I assure you.
Is Brazil imperialist? Is India imperialist? They are “that big”, no?
Brazil, yes. India, I’m not informed but my bet would be obviously yes, no way such a country hasn’t developed imperialist practices.
I think you’re using “Imperialism” to describe something fubdamentally and entirely different from what Socialists consider Imperialism to be. Would you mind explaining what you think Imperialism is?
They did: “imperialism is when big country”, not very surprising definition given their instance:
Yea, I’m hoping they realize they are tripping over themselves just to be a contrarion, but I think that’s a lost cause now.
I consider imperialism putting your hands in someone else’s land, basically speaking.
What’s YOUR definition?
Gotcha, so your definition is focused entirely on force. I don’t think this definition fits, though, not in prior forms of Imperialism like the Roman Empire or British Empire, and not for modern Imperialism dominated by the US Empire, as it makes no mention of extraction or analysis of why Imperialism exists. For example, the Union defeating the Confederacy, or the Soviets taking Berlin, are both “Imperialism” in your definition.
What Socialists refer to as Imperialism is a form of international extraction. I already linked this Prolewiki article for you, but here’s the basics:
The PRC, India, Brazil, etc do not fit this, but Western countries absolutely do, especially the US Empire.
Ahahahah no no, the Soviet invading Berlin isn’t imperialism for me. Oppressing neighbors is though, like Tibet to make a classic example.
How the fuck Brazil is imperialist?
They are very confused.
Hey they taught me Brazil was a Portuguese colony, they can’t be bad guys too!!1!
You didn’t explain how Brazil is Imperialist, you just made fun of the person asking you to elaborate. You’re deeply unserious.
You didn’t answer.
I’m Brazilian btw
Rio de la Plata