• ddplf@szmer.info
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    17 hours ago

    Sure, everyone hates oligarchs. But oligarchs are up there and out of reach, and they are strong enough to retaliate. Instead, you also got these minorities, they’re right here in the punching distance and they even may not hit you back.

    This is it, this is how the billionaires make Joes fight other Joes and not the rich. This is why we have the cultural war and not the class war.

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      A united public could easily oust the oligarchs and put them where they belong (the guillotines). But that requires large-scale public co-operation and putting aside differences, something the American public is wholly incapable of. I don’t think it would be that hard if that was required in Europe.

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        We’re not incapable, it’s just been thoroughly trained out of us. My dog doesn’t bite but he still has teeth.

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        Even in Europe when things would get bad enough for the people to put aside their differences and kill the ruling class, the differences tend to re-assert themselves once the common enemy is gone. That’s where things go south. Cutting heads off is like eating potato chips. You can’t just stop once you’ve started. Eventually you’re pulling crumbs out of the bottom of the bag.

        If it gets bad enough for the American people to unite to kill the oppressors, the oppressors will definitely have a bad time, but you better be ready for one hell of a rough ride after.

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          which is worse, the oligarchy (french monarchy) or the aftermath - robespierre / reign of terror etc?

          I’d say france, after, even with the horrors of the transition is worth it.

          we killed and forced our british royal oppressors once. so… perhaps… but it’s awfully hard to rebuild things once wrecked.

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          Thank you. So many people lately that think there’s some magic “fix everything” button hidden in the neck of whatever top asshole is in power.

          Doesn’t take too deep a look at revolutions the world over to see that isn’t the case.

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            Don’t get me wrong, I think we’re at the point where it may be the only way out. It’s just nothing to look forward to, and suggesting Europe “does it better” isn’t comforting.

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        17 hours ago

        We do have oligarchs in Europe, they’re just not celebrities like their American counterparts. And very few of them are the actual billionaires.

        That being said, they seem to keep low profile, maybe they really did learn the hard lesson from the European history.

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        12 hours ago

        *would definitely

        There, much better :)

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          12 hours ago

          Only until the technology exists to replace workers with AI and physical robots.

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            Not that it really matters but replacing humans with machines has been done for all of the industrialized age on some level or another.

            Therefore one doesnt need to worry about that. We rather need to take back the products of our labour. And later, we must demand equal distribution of wealth if work ever became obsolete, which isnt gonna happen imo.

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              AI didn’t exist in any commercial capacity three years ago. It’s already displacing jobs and capturing hundreds of billions of dollars and the quality and ability has improved exponentially.

              I do think we’re going to see it this lifetime and sooner than we think. 10-15 years from now, it’s really gonna suck being a kid looking for your first summer job.

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      12 hours ago

      Thank you, comrade. Brillantly put.