• plyth@feddit.org
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    17 hours ago

    This can be turned around. The planet is burning and you want to fuck around and argue pronouns.

    How should unity be created? By tolerating everything or by surpressing everything in public?

    Both are possible. How should the choice be made which one to use?

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        2 hours ago

        You ignore your own power. It’s two tigers who have to cooperate to escape a burning cage.

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      16 hours ago

      Nobody wants to argue about fucking pronouns except the people insisting on making it into a fucking issue. Nobody wants to argue it’s okay to fuck who they want except the fuckheads saying you can’t fuck who you want because I disagree.

      This is a beyond garbage take.

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        16 hours ago

        except the people insisting on making it into a fucking issue

        Which are enough that society is split and there is no unity to prevent the planet from burning.

        It’s one way to call them stupid and wait until they change their mind. I think it’s better to recognize that they insist on their way with the same determination. So instead of waiting forever, we should find a way to overcome the split.

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            5 hours ago

            Only that I argue that we should choose one side or the other entirely.

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          10 hours ago

          You’re so right. We need to find a middle ground on every issue.

          Vaccines cause autism is valid. Child brides are valid. Slavery is valid.

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            5 hours ago

            I am not arguing for a middle ground but for choosing one side and fully committing to it.

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          find a way to overcome the split

          Good idea, I propose everybody grows the fuck up and accepts people can be different than they are without being evil. If regressives can’t tolerate the existence of LQBTQ+ comrades, the only two morally acceptable choices I see are for them to get their shit together or for the rest of the world to move on without them. I’d LOVE to see a full working class coalition, but keep in mind these aren’t differences of opinion over tax policies we’re talking here - there’s no room for compromise if the stakes are human rights.

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      16 hours ago

      How should the choice be made which one to use?

      Use tolerance as a social contract instead of a default “everyone is tolerated” type. If you don’t tolerate someone else in society then you are no longer tolerated. Seems simple to me.

      Now you might say, but the people that want to be called a certain pronoun aren’t tolerating the hatred of another group that wants to address them “however they see fit”. Well that 2nd group isn’t tolerating the first group. The first group was just living and the second group started the intolerance. Also, if you use hatred to justify why you should be tolerated then you lost the fight.

      Hope that clears it up for you.

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        16 hours ago

        If you don’t tolerate someone else in society then you are no longer tolerated.

        You can only do that if you control society. If you don’t then intolerance towards nonnormative behavior becomes also a possible strategy.