They can of course try and attack nuclear nations and risk total annihilation. Even if everyone was going to say “no problem lets not use nukes” the european states would stand in moskow and storm the kreml eaily.
Its totally in line with the current warmongering of the german fascist government.
Take a second and think: would you go and die for a country? How can you ask of others if you dont?
Also, most importantly: a country that kidnapps its citizens to throw them into the warzone has no credibility in my book.
Russia is the aggressor, no problem. But the war in ukraine has been lost when they started putting men in jail for fleeing.
Yes. Have you ever heard of the overtone window? Germany is already breaking international law and planning on building the infamous “konzentrationslager” again.
Brother what? Konzentrationslager?
Yeah sure, Friedrich Merz is going to reactivate the KZs any minute now. And Bayer already ramped up the Zyklon B production. TF are you talking about?
The concentration camps are not killing camps although a lot of people like to mix them up. They’re just camps to bring “undesirables” to. The atrocities done to them werent by design at first.
So of course the illegal deportation camps are just that.
That is your opinion. I disagree. You are born into a country without being asked and would be forced to move your life to a country based on if they force you to die if they deem it necessary. That has nothing to do with democracy and freedom.
Apart from that, the UN agrees with me in human rights resolution 1995/83 “conscientious objection to military service”. It is also a human right not to be sent to die against your will just to save a state. Because fighting in a war does not mean you save the people in said country. Think about it.
I still think it should be your duty. Otherwise you never were a real part of the country. I feel it mostly depends on the attackers and your chances of winning. If your friends and family have been part of the collective that has been protecting you your whole life, and those lives are in danger, it’s extremely selfish to just sit back and hope for the best.
That said, protecting a country is not the same as your loved ones. You can do that with a gun sitting at your window. Also it strongly depends on why you are supposed to defend it.
Because honestly, protecting nazi germany was one’s duty at the time. I would have shot myself before i’d have done that.
It is incredibly important to not pass rash judgement but think about the implications beforehand.
Also some food for thought: you see killing as a must for living in a country. Maybe ask yourself why you think that. What good does it do to kill other people? The vast majority of lost life in battles in the last 50 years wasnt in justified wars but to protect capital interests. Maybe lets not die for money?
It isn’t. You’re living in a country that has been protecting you your whole life. People often forget this. If you don’t want to fight for the country you live in. Go someplace else. Otherwise you’re just selfish.
I’m sorry, but this take feels like it comes from the mind of a thirteen year old with zero understanding of how the world works. There are far, far more ways to contribute back to a country than going to die for it.
They can of course try and attack nuclear nations and risk total annihilation. Even if everyone was going to say “no problem lets not use nukes” the european states would stand in moskow and storm the kreml eaily.
Its totally in line with the current warmongering of the german fascist government.
Take a second and think: would you go and die for a country? How can you ask of others if you dont?
Also, most importantly: a country that kidnapps its citizens to throw them into the warzone has no credibility in my book.
Russia is the aggressor, no problem. But the war in ukraine has been lost when they started putting men in jail for fleeing.
German fascist government? Does the word fascism mean anything anymore?
Yes. Have you ever heard of the overtone window? Germany is already breaking international law and planning on building the infamous “konzentrationslager” again.
You’re not paying attention.
Brother what? Konzentrationslager?
Yeah sure, Friedrich Merz is going to reactivate the KZs any minute now. And Bayer already ramped up the Zyklon B production. TF are you talking about?
There you see the problem. Thats not how it happened last time and its not how it happens this time.
Here’s an article about them. I suggest you read it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp
The concentration camps are not killing camps although a lot of people like to mix them up. They’re just camps to bring “undesirables” to. The atrocities done to them werent by design at first.
So of course the illegal deportation camps are just that.
This would be the case in almost every country.
And that makes it okay?
I think it does yes.
You’re morally corrupt.
Why? You’re a citizen so it’s your duty to protect your country. If you don’t want that, go to a country that wouldn’t care.
People that take advantage of their country but not fight for it are the immoral ones.
That is your opinion. I disagree. You are born into a country without being asked and would be forced to move your life to a country based on if they force you to die if they deem it necessary. That has nothing to do with democracy and freedom.
Apart from that, the UN agrees with me in human rights resolution 1995/83 “conscientious objection to military service”. It is also a human right not to be sent to die against your will just to save a state. Because fighting in a war does not mean you save the people in said country. Think about it.
I still think it should be your duty. Otherwise you never were a real part of the country. I feel it mostly depends on the attackers and your chances of winning. If your friends and family have been part of the collective that has been protecting you your whole life, and those lives are in danger, it’s extremely selfish to just sit back and hope for the best.
It’s of course your right to think and say that.
That said, protecting a country is not the same as your loved ones. You can do that with a gun sitting at your window. Also it strongly depends on why you are supposed to defend it.
Because honestly, protecting nazi germany was one’s duty at the time. I would have shot myself before i’d have done that.
It is incredibly important to not pass rash judgement but think about the implications beforehand.
Also some food for thought: you see killing as a must for living in a country. Maybe ask yourself why you think that. What good does it do to kill other people? The vast majority of lost life in battles in the last 50 years wasnt in justified wars but to protect capital interests. Maybe lets not die for money?
I do not remember signing up for a meat fodder to protect oligarch’s money lol
Conscription is immoral. If you sign up to fight for your country, and you run away, well that’s a lot more morally ambiguous.
It isn’t. You’re living in a country that has been protecting you your whole life. People often forget this. If you don’t want to fight for the country you live in. Go someplace else. Otherwise you’re just selfish.
I’m sorry, but this take feels like it comes from the mind of a thirteen year old with zero understanding of how the world works. There are far, far more ways to contribute back to a country than going to die for it.