This x100. I get along with the people I work with but at the end of the day I can’t wait to get away from them. Whereas I still catch up with friends outside of work regardless. Given the option of only socialising with friends and family that’s a no brainer for me.
Speak for yourself. It highly depends on what people you are talking to and the quality of those relationships. IDGAF about anybody at work and could go my entire life without speaking to them again.
I thought the same but over the years my perspective has changed. It’s not actually healthy to think like that about people you spend a third of your time with
Doesn’t help the fact that we are faced with the threat of systemic violence if we do not maintain a job and are thus forced to spend a third of our time somewhere we don’t want to be in the first place.
Forced interaction will never be healthy interaction.
I’m civil at work but once I leave the job odds are I will never speak to those people again. Coworkers are not friends, for the most part. There’s maybe a handful of people from previous jobs that I still talk to.
I get that science shows that most people need a certain baseline level of socialization to be happy and mentally well.
… but I think that assumes said interaction is … casual or friendly, in a third place, or with someone you trust, and doesn’t require or involve a monetary cost or gain as part of the interaction.
Thats getting to be near impossible to do on a regular basis in the US, certainly in person, even online or via phone as well.
Myself?
Autistic with CPTSD from being surrounded by narcissist hypocrite, various kinds of mentally unstable people my whole life, now finally far away from them.
Lemmy is about all the socializing I need, and I am so, so less stressed and baseline happy now that I no longer need to solve idiots problems for them, be constantly infantilized by people who are objectively less emotionally stable, worse at managing money, and usually less informed/intelligent than me.
Exactly, which is why I appreciate wfh so much, because the reduced commute time means I’ve had more time to establish a healthy long term social life which will last beyond my current contract. I also appreciate the extra time I get to spend with my loved ones, which, as you rightly point out, is very important for mental health. Mandatory return to office ruins all of this, and taking into consideration what you said, should really be considered a threat to public health and wellbeing.
I do agree with you that work from home is nice. I am not commenting on that what I am commenting on is that according to her the best bit is total social isolation. Because the way she wrote the tweet implies she stays at home alone with no contact to the outside world.
Seriously, all these people saying they have no human contact unless they go into the office is truly horrible to hear.
And, honestly, probably isn’t their fault; depending where they live, it might be incredibly difficult to find a local community that they would be interested in with how spread out and isolated cities have been built to be.
It’s all just so depressing that we have a society that has relegated most people to have their entire life revolve around their job. Nothing but work and back home to prep for work tomorrow.
At least for me its not “i get no social contact outside of the office” (i have a very active social life with things to do basically every single night), its more " i just dont want to spend 1/4 of my week not socializing.
It’s nice to have little non-work related conversations. It breaks up the BS.
In one of his Sherlock Holmes stories, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle makes a reference to the effect of being alone on someone like Newton versus someone like Beau Brummel. Unfortunately, it seems there are too few Newtons and too many Brummels in the world.
As much as people act like they don’t need contact with other humans, it has been shown to be absolutely necessary for mental health and brain health.
Yeah, but you can get that outside of an office with people you actually enjoy being with.
This x100. I get along with the people I work with but at the end of the day I can’t wait to get away from them. Whereas I still catch up with friends outside of work regardless. Given the option of only socialising with friends and family that’s a no brainer for me.
That is not what I am saying, what I am referencing is her saying you can go days without human contact. Implying she doesn’t hangout with anyone.
That was two days ago. Let it go. Nobody cares anymore.
Speak for yourself. It highly depends on what people you are talking to and the quality of those relationships. IDGAF about anybody at work and could go my entire life without speaking to them again.
I thought the same but over the years my perspective has changed. It’s not actually healthy to think like that about people you spend a third of your time with
Doesn’t help the fact that we are faced with the threat of systemic violence if we do not maintain a job and are thus forced to spend a third of our time somewhere we don’t want to be in the first place.
Forced interaction will never be healthy interaction.
Yeah, that’s for sure. I’m a FIRE adherent so hopefully I am going to be able to choose where I spend my time soon and escape the broken system
I’m civil at work but once I leave the job odds are I will never speak to those people again. Coworkers are not friends, for the most part. There’s maybe a handful of people from previous jobs that I still talk to.
Basically same.
I get that science shows that most people need a certain baseline level of socialization to be happy and mentally well.
… but I think that assumes said interaction is … casual or friendly, in a third place, or with someone you trust, and doesn’t require or involve a monetary cost or gain as part of the interaction.
Thats getting to be near impossible to do on a regular basis in the US, certainly in person, even online or via phone as well.
Myself?
Autistic with CPTSD from being surrounded by narcissist hypocrite, various kinds of mentally unstable people my whole life, now finally far away from them.
Lemmy is about all the socializing I need, and I am so, so less stressed and baseline happy now that I no longer need to solve idiots problems for them, be constantly infantilized by people who are objectively less emotionally stable, worse at managing money, and usually less informed/intelligent than me.
Exactly, which is why I appreciate wfh so much, because the reduced commute time means I’ve had more time to establish a healthy long term social life which will last beyond my current contract. I also appreciate the extra time I get to spend with my loved ones, which, as you rightly point out, is very important for mental health. Mandatory return to office ruins all of this, and taking into consideration what you said, should really be considered a threat to public health and wellbeing.
I do agree with you that work from home is nice. I am not commenting on that what I am commenting on is that according to her the best bit is total social isolation. Because the way she wrote the tweet implies she stays at home alone with no contact to the outside world.
While that’s true, it doesn’t need to be 40 hours a week of co-workers. You can fill some of that with family and friends.
I speak to another human daily when I go get some bread at the corner.
They get it elsewhere like a real social life outside work.
Seriously, all these people saying they have no human contact unless they go into the office is truly horrible to hear.
And, honestly, probably isn’t their fault; depending where they live, it might be incredibly difficult to find a local community that they would be interested in with how spread out and isolated cities have been built to be.
It’s all just so depressing that we have a society that has relegated most people to have their entire life revolve around their job. Nothing but work and back home to prep for work tomorrow.
At least for me its not “i get no social contact outside of the office” (i have a very active social life with things to do basically every single night), its more " i just dont want to spend 1/4 of my week not socializing.
It’s nice to have little non-work related conversations. It breaks up the BS.
Yeaaaaa, it’s fucked me up bad
In one of his Sherlock Holmes stories, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle makes a reference to the effect of being alone on someone like Newton versus someone like Beau Brummel. Unfortunately, it seems there are too few Newtons and too many Brummels in the world.