This x100. I get along with the people I work with but at the end of the day I can’t wait to get away from them. Whereas I still catch up with friends outside of work regardless. Given the option of only socialising with friends and family that’s a no brainer for me.
Exactly, which is why I appreciate wfh so much, because the reduced commute time means I’ve had more time to establish a healthy long term social life which will last beyond my current contract. I also appreciate the extra time I get to spend with my loved ones, which, as you rightly point out, is very important for mental health. Mandatory return to office ruins all of this, and taking into consideration what you said, should really be considered a threat to public health and wellbeing.
Speak for yourself. It highly depends on what people you are talking to and the quality of those relationships. IDGAF about anybody at work and could go my entire life without speaking to them again.
I thought the same but over the years my perspective has changed. It’s not actually healthy to think like that about people you spend a third of your time with
I’m civil at work but once I leave the job odds are I will never speak to those people again. Coworkers are not friends, for the most part. There’s maybe a handful of people from previous jobs that I still talk to.
Doesn’t help the fact that we are faced with the threat of systemic violence if we do not maintain a job and are thus forced to spend a third of our time somewhere we don’t want to be in the first place.
Forced interaction will never be healthy interaction.
I get that science shows that most people need a certain baseline level of socialization to be happy and mentally well.
… but I think that assumes said interaction is … casual or friendly, in a third place, or with someone you trust, and doesn’t require or involve a monetary cost or gain as part of the interaction.
Thats getting to be near impossible to do on a regular basis in the US, certainly in person, even online or via phone as well.
Myself?
Autistic with CPTSD from being surrounded by narcissist hypocrite, various kinds of mentally unstable people my whole life, now finally far away from them.
Lemmy is about all the socializing I need, and I am so, so less stressed and baseline happy now that I no longer need to solve idiots problems for them, be constantly infantilized by people who are objectively less emotionally stable, worse at managing money, and usually less informed/intelligent than me.
Seriously, all these people saying they have no human contact unless they go into the office is truly horrible to hear.
And, honestly, probably isn’t their fault; depending where they live, it might be incredibly difficult to find a local community that they would be interested in with how spread out and isolated cities have been built to be.
It’s all just so depressing that we have a society that has relegated most people to have their entire life revolve around their job. Nothing but work and back home to prep for work tomorrow.
In one of his Sherlock Holmes stories, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle makes a reference to the effect of being alone on someone like Newton versus someone like Beau Brummel. Unfortunately, it seems there are too few Newtons and too many Brummels in the world.
As much as people act like they don’t need contact with other humans, it has been shown to be absolutely necessary for mental health and brain health.
Yeah, but you can get that outside of an office with people you actually enjoy being with.
This x100. I get along with the people I work with but at the end of the day I can’t wait to get away from them. Whereas I still catch up with friends outside of work regardless. Given the option of only socialising with friends and family that’s a no brainer for me.
Exactly, which is why I appreciate wfh so much, because the reduced commute time means I’ve had more time to establish a healthy long term social life which will last beyond my current contract. I also appreciate the extra time I get to spend with my loved ones, which, as you rightly point out, is very important for mental health. Mandatory return to office ruins all of this, and taking into consideration what you said, should really be considered a threat to public health and wellbeing.
Speak for yourself. It highly depends on what people you are talking to and the quality of those relationships. IDGAF about anybody at work and could go my entire life without speaking to them again.
I thought the same but over the years my perspective has changed. It’s not actually healthy to think like that about people you spend a third of your time with
I’m civil at work but once I leave the job odds are I will never speak to those people again. Coworkers are not friends, for the most part. There’s maybe a handful of people from previous jobs that I still talk to.
Doesn’t help the fact that we are faced with the threat of systemic violence if we do not maintain a job and are thus forced to spend a third of our time somewhere we don’t want to be in the first place.
Forced interaction will never be healthy interaction.
Yeah, that’s for sure. I’m a FIRE adherent so hopefully I am going to be able to choose where I spend my time soon and escape the broken system
Basically same.
I get that science shows that most people need a certain baseline level of socialization to be happy and mentally well.
… but I think that assumes said interaction is … casual or friendly, in a third place, or with someone you trust, and doesn’t require or involve a monetary cost or gain as part of the interaction.
Thats getting to be near impossible to do on a regular basis in the US, certainly in person, even online or via phone as well.
Myself?
Autistic with CPTSD from being surrounded by narcissist hypocrite, various kinds of mentally unstable people my whole life, now finally far away from them.
Lemmy is about all the socializing I need, and I am so, so less stressed and baseline happy now that I no longer need to solve idiots problems for them, be constantly infantilized by people who are objectively less emotionally stable, worse at managing money, and usually less informed/intelligent than me.
They get it elsewhere like a real social life outside work.
Seriously, all these people saying they have no human contact unless they go into the office is truly horrible to hear.
And, honestly, probably isn’t their fault; depending where they live, it might be incredibly difficult to find a local community that they would be interested in with how spread out and isolated cities have been built to be.
It’s all just so depressing that we have a society that has relegated most people to have their entire life revolve around their job. Nothing but work and back home to prep for work tomorrow.
While that’s true, it doesn’t need to be 40 hours a week of co-workers. You can fill some of that with family and friends.
I speak to another human daily when I go get some bread at the corner.
Yeaaaaa, it’s fucked me up bad
In one of his Sherlock Holmes stories, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle makes a reference to the effect of being alone on someone like Newton versus someone like Beau Brummel. Unfortunately, it seems there are too few Newtons and too many Brummels in the world.