AI-ters.
  • MudMan@fedia.io
    515·
    15 hours ago

    For the record, the word as a general noun is widely recognized to mean what everybody thinks it means:

    Luddite noun Ludd·​ite ˈlə-ˌdīt : one of a group of early 19th century English workmen destroying laborsaving machinery as a protest broadly : one who is opposed to especially technological change

    One of the weirder annoyances of the AI moral panic is how often you see this spiral of pedantry about the historical luddites whenever someone brings up the word as a pejorative.

    I mean, fair rhetorical play, I suppose, in that it creates a very good incentive to not bring it up at all. If the goal was to avoid being called a luddite as an insult or as shorthand for dismissing AI criticism as outright technophobia I suppose that is mission accomplished, disingenuous as it is.

      • MudMan@fedia.io
        22·
        8 hours ago

        That is correct.

        It is also correct that someone disagreeing with me can be doing so because of a moral panic. Our agreement is entirely disconnected to whether there is a moral panic at play or not.

        For the record, I think “AI” is profoundly problematic in multiple ways.

        This is also unrelated to whether there is a moral panic about it. Which there absolutely is.

        • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          8 hours ago

          long winded way to say your objections are logical and sound while everyone else is just having a panic, you little moralizer you.

          • MudMan@fedia.io
            22·
            7 hours ago

            Well, no, it’s a concise way to say some objections are logical and sound and some are stemming from a moral panic.

            Whether I agree with the objections on each camp is, again, irrelevant.

            I disagree with some of the non-moral panic objections, too, and I’m happy to have that conversation.

            Four possible types of objections in this scenario, if you want to be “logical” about it:

            • Objections that aren’t moral panic that I agree with.
            • Objections that aren’t moral panic that I disagree with.
            • Objections that are moral panic that I disagree with.
            • Objections that are moral panic that I agree with.

            I think there aren’t any in that last group, but there are certainly at least some objections in all other three.