• Mustakrakish@lemmy.world
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    It’s ok, they’re gathering supplies for the people. Once things start it’ll all be in one convient place to take.

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    Electric motorcycles? Do preppers have an understanding of how gasoline absorbs water from the air and is substantially worse within a matter of months? Even with stabilizer, you get a few years out of it, tops. What are you going to use for the rest of your life?

    To be fair, the writers of post-apocalyptic Hollywood movies don’t understand it, either.

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      Create your own gasoline refining plant in your bunker and crank out fuel as you need it? Should be fine because motorcycles don’t use a lot of gas. But you would think if you had tons of money you might put some solar panel stuff in storage as well just in case

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      Could always set up a refinery of sorts.

      And while gas absorbs water from the air, I’m sure there is an expensive way to if not outright prevent it, than slow it down way more than current mass adopted storage.

      Off the top of my head i imagine some sort of giant glass tank involving vaccums and check valves would at least extend the usable life by a fair amount.

      And while there are a lot of popular motorcycles whose gas mileage is little better than a car there are also a good amount with amazing gas mileage.

      There’s also the possibility of converting the motorcycles to alternate fuel sources like propane or natural gas.

      Or as these people are just rich assholes indulging in their fantasies they may really take their cue from movies.

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    I say that when the billionaires retreat into their bunkers we should all cover the entrances and vents with a couple hundred layers of concrete.

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    I would like for them to find out the hard way that the characteristics to be a leader in a Neo-liberal capitalistic society are not the same in an apocalyptic wasteland.

    And by hard way, I mean that they would be made the fucksock of charismatic warlord.

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    Hilarious and sad considering those techbros are creating the conditions for a possible economic collapse, such as playing with creepto.

    Oh yes, kinda reminds me of reading a chapter in World War Z (the book with its dark comedy is still more entertaining than the humorless movie), like how one character found himself on an island full of rich people… Guess what happened next?

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      I think there’s a kind of sunk cost fallacy at work with preppers. Many of them start with the notion that it’s good to be prepared, just in case. However, being prepared for this sort of thing isn’t a casual exercise. It’s a whole hobby.

      What if the collapse doesn’t come? All that time and effort would be wasted. Better do something to make it collapse.

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        A parallel, similar would be ghandis govt in the 70s, was murdered by their own bodyguards because the pm was targeting sikh people for persecution.

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      10 hours ago

      thiel, musk, bezos, altman, they have thier palaces, complexes much like putin does.

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    If you’re in a bunker how many places can you ride your guns? Realistically.

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    I don’t remember who said it, but I think about this comment a lot:

    All these billionaires would rather spend their wealth building bunkers for when their actions cause social collapse, instead of trying to prevent social collapse in the first place.

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      I don’t think they necessarily “prefer” it. It’s more just that they have what is an unimaginable amount of money in comparison to us, why not invest to preserve your long term survival?

      They have already dealt with the normal shit the rest of us have to. They have a house, car, enough money for them and their families to never work again, to do whatever hobbies they like with no restriction.

      If you are someone with a worth of a billion, this bunker development will cost something like 10m. That’s 1% of your wealth. It would be the same as the median American spending $1920 in pure relative terms, but probably would have an effect more like $500 on their real finances (again, every other need has been financially met long, long ago)

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        Well, because I’m not a sociopath I think preserving the world’s ecosystems is more important than a few years at the tail end of my life. Doomsday bunker with a Mad Max stockpile wouldn’t occur to me as a thing to actually do.

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          Okay, cool. Probably so do a lot of billionaires, at least from a pure pragmatic POV of them not wanting their skull cracked open. The point is that for a tiny portion of their wealth, they can insure against a lot of more realistic severe problems (unrest, riots, communism arising in the US, war, assassination, widespread famine), in addition to more extreme and less likely problems (doomsday, machine uprising, environmental collapse).

          Frankly, were I a billionaire and able to see the choices Trump is making to make the average civilian in America jobless, penniless and hopeless, I would also be making a bunker in the wilderness or distant nation.

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            Just people building their own tombs. Being a part of society is what keeps you alive. They already crossed the boundary by essentially removing themselves from it. It’s already over for them

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            11 hours ago

            Or you could use your indescribable wealth to prevent the things you need a bunker for.

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              Yeah but you can’t though. Like let’s be real, you have 1bn, you’re not Elon Musk or Bill Gates level - and even they would not be able to stop an angry Donald Trump

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                Not enough to fight the bigger fish, but 1 billion dollars is more than enough to make public works that aren’t just a front (all these assholes have some foundation that is, at best, a zero sum charity), making better community spaces so they’ll actually see you as a “good guy” instead of yet another fucking greedy asshole.

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      These assholes always fantasize that their wealth and accumulation of luxury items will grant them the leg up to become rulers during the social collapse. They don’t realize that in case of a social collapse the world won’t immediately look like Mad Max, and they certainly aren’t Immortan Joe. It will look more like Children of Man. Very slow and very gradual and with a lot mass governmental violence, not small arms violence.

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      The thing is, none of these bunkers are built by billionaires. Would be real unfortunate if they had some design flaws in them lol

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        Probably won’t protect them from things like direct conventional bombardment of bombs or even bunker busters. Or even a nuke

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        Doesn’t need to be any design flaws, a few minutes with a welder and/or a truck load of concrete at the door once they’re in there would render the whole billionaire problem “solved”, Hotel California style.

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          Given we’re talking about the total collapse of society, the goal in such an event would be less “keep the billionaire in” and more “get all the food and ammunition he’s hoarding out. And any women.”

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      Further, they don’t have what it takes to survive off the land, nor the intimidation to warlord after.

      Other than a pensioners its difficult to imagine someone more dependant on the systems.

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        No wilderness survival skills, how do they know which berries to eat and which will poison you, or which animal carcass have a ton of parasites you should never eat, never eat a carnivore or an animal that eats mostly carrion.

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      To be fair, what could a single billionaire do? They are far more powerful than most, but they would have to cooperate with other billionaires to make that change.

      There are 3000 billionaires. Who is going to stick their head out if the necessary changes will be opposed by many billionaires as well as huge parts of the regular population?

      It would be better for society to improve itself instead of waiting for a solution by the billionaires. Difficult while being trained to be a consumer, but possible.

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    They’re just preppers who happen to be wealthy. They’re no different than the poorer preppers who blame a CME or some nefarious plot that will catastrophically disrupt the world.

    The only difference in their echo chambers is money.

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    I always find it funny that people imagibe that in an apocalypse a modern fossil fuel vehicle would be any good. Unless you know how to modify the engine to use realistically self-producable fuel you will be able to run it for only a few months before all the fuel in the world degrades and starts destroying/not running the engine. Better off getting electric vehicles as electricity is actually easy to produce.