• WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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    Nah, go for the darker more realistic version. Mulder just goes further down the rabbit hole, ends up going full Qanon, and ends up being killed trying to storm the capital building.

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      Great 1st season arc. I would add, not killed. Arrested then pardoned, but not before befriending some right wing militia that swears they captured Bigfoot and are breeding and training him to make super soldiers.

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    That would turn it into Scooby Doo. In the end it always turns out to be done by some greedy prick trying to cover things up with mysticism.

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    So serious scooby doo.

    As long as Gillian Anderson reprises her role… sign me up.

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      Sounds like it would veer kinda close to Hannibal.

      On that topic, I miss Hannibal. Mads Mikkelsen is an amazing Hannibal… and Gillian Anderson was in it!

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        Hannibal was fucking amazing and I agree, both Gillian Anderson and Mads Mikkaelson were amazing in it.

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            The thing that kills me, is that there would have been more Hannibal if NBC and Amazon (Which had the streaming rights) werent complete dicks about selling the show and impossible deadline demands from Amazon if they picked it up.

            10 years later, and we’re still hyped about the show… and the corporate mechanisms seized up due to executive stupidity and have prevented us from having the product we yearn for.

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              I mean executive idiocy is the reason for a good portion of stupid decisions in every field. How we let coloring book majors be the most listened to and hold the most authoritive positions is a large blackmark on our society.

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                A good deal of CEOS are psychopaths or sociopaths.

                They get elevated cause they are masters of manipulation, are capable of oozing massive amounts of false charisma, and have zero fucks about cutting down and hurting anyone in their way.

                Which explains a lot of corporatism

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      Every once and a while a few unexplainable things add up over a season, just to end with Scully pulling the face off an alien in the finale to reveal a stoned teenager and a dog are pranking Mulder…

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      That’s not even a stretch. Her full (married) name could easily be Dana Velma Scully, but she doesn’t go by her very distinctive middle name anymore. If I’d had a super funky middle name, I definitely would have used it in high school and definitely wouldn’t as an adult. And I’m not half as (lovably) joyless as Scully is.

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    I hear you but nah. We have more than enough “realistic” and “gritty” shows. The whimsy of X-files was what made it tick. Taking that away would just make it boring which is the worst possible outcome for such a show.

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      We don’t have nearly enough shows that promote healthy skepticism and the scientific method though.

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        True, but I feel the original X-files had that in droves with Scully and practically everyone else opposing Mulder at every turn. It took a damn long time for him to finally be vindicated, arguably until the movie.

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          Did it promote skepticism and science though? It showed them being applied, sure. In the end though, the show was always on Mulder’s side of the “truth”. Of course it also kind of said “Scully’s work is important” but it was always assumed that her view of any situation would ultimately be the wrong one. Her science-oriented methods break down when it comes to (in the broadest sense) “supernatural” phenomena - because they are, by definition even, outside science.

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            Her science-oriented methods break down when it comes to (in the broadest sense) “supernatural” phenomena - because they are, by definition even, outside science.

            I only watched the first 2 or 3 seasons of The X-Files, so I there’s lots of episodes I haven’t seen, but this seems incorrect to me. Scully and Mulder were chasing unexplained phenomena, which are entirely within the realm of science. Humans tend to call things “supernatural” when we don’t know how to explain them (ghosts, monsters, aliens, etc), but those entities (in the context of The X-Files where they are actually real), once observed, can be subjected to the scientific method the same as anything else. Aliens and cryptids and such in The X-Files aren’t magic; it’s just extremely rare for humans to be able to observe and study them.

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              Counterpoint: there’s an episode where a genie kills a man by giving him a giant penis but not enough blood to fill it and keep his brain alive, then turns another person invisible. It’s a monster-of-the-week episode, but still. Definitely magic.

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          Even in the movie they weren’t technically aliens. It was just ancient sapient black goo that was here long before we evolved.

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    Hot take: Debris was on track for something like that.

    It had “new strange” style storytelling with a very grounded Sci-Fi basis, interesting episiodes, and a conspiracy arc to tie it all together. There were also hints at things well beyond understanding, turning typical X-Files formula inside out: “it’s all explainable phenomena and everyone knows it, but some things take time to understand.” The major flaw here were wooden performances and un-charismatic characters that just fail to pull you in.

    That said, there’s no reason to wait for an X-Files reboot. SCP has more than enough lore to get the ball moving, and there’s gotta be a webisode series or small-studio production team out there just waiting for eyeballs and donations.

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    I just read a book that somewhat follows this kind of premise: A person believes in ghosts, and all these things happen, and, as the reader, I’m totally on board with it being ghosts. Then a new character enters, and gives logical explanations for everything, and the main character, and me, the reader, realize that, oh damn, it’s not ghosts at all. Except then it turns out it WAS ghosts, and the shit hits the fan.

    It was a really fun read.

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    NO. Do NOT meddle with my X-Files just because you want to satisfy some selfish bullshit. Good DAY, sir.

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    This idea but with MAGA instead of Mulder.

    Haha, but the show sounds like a fun twist, but probably only good for 2-3 seasons. It’d get really hard to keep interest in a show like that for very long. I.e. the good place ending itself after 4 was perfect.

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      Perhaps more of a Miniseries. And the thing driving the plot would be not just the investigations but Mulders Struggle to rethink everything he belived in.

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        That’d work, 8-12 episodes of him on the rollercoaster, maybe even seeking therapy in the end. Scully babying him less and less as she gets more sick of his bullshit and stops pulling punches.

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          Plottwist in the finale: It turns out there really was a conspiracy after all. The alien Invasion happens unopposed while Scully is just annoyed and Mulder sits at home depressed and confused.

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    I feel that any sufficiently understood form of the supernatural would just folded into science, it would be cool to see a show with a hybrid character like scully that is still a scientific and skeptic minded person that can ratle off the sub species of gnomes but knows that they where chased out of the reagon centuries ago and there haven’t been any reports of them in the neighbouring regions that couldn’t be explained away, while yes gnomes exist it turns out it was a serial killer using folk tales to throw off the investigation

    I guess the short way to put it is there’s no reason things need to be mundane to be logically explored with scientific methods

    “Most humans regect the existence of the supernatural just as some regect the validity of vaccines despite the vast documented evidence.”

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      What you’re describing is the Science Fantasy subgenre. If you haven’t already, like Sanctuary and Fringe are exactly what you’d be looking for.

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        Ya I’ve seen those but I felt like this would be a better alternative to scully always being right and nothing really fun happening, I guess I’d rather have supernatural + CSI instead of scooby doo + CSI, not sure if CSI is the best example but the only other cop show I could think of was law and order

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    How about a reboot where Mulder gradually loses his grip on reality and slides deeper into paranoia, hallucinations, and delusions. A tragic story where Scully is forced to helplessly watch as her partner fades away.

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      No, he doesn’t just fade away, slowly converts from a protagonist to an antagonist. At first, everything is naturally explainable. He slowly grows increasingly agitated with that. Is the series progresses, a few paranormal, unexplainable things start to happen. Evidence, proving natural causes slowly wanes. Scully starts to suspect. Occasionally finds a small piece of evidence that is not quite where it should be. Suspicion grows over the run of the show, eventually they end up on the trail of an ever elusive criminal mastermind.

      It’s Mulder. He goes whole ham evil and it’s up to her to stop him.

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        Or Mulder is a subj of MK Ultra 2.0, and he naturally can not believe the only real conspiracy is him being drugged and exposed to fake leads and evidence. His father, the originator of that program, thought they’ve created a batch of people immune to mind control and mind altering through procedures his son doesn’t remember well. Skully learns and exposes the scheme to him and he turns on her and other people thinking he’s the insane one while only he know The Truth. Plot narrowly misses a point, where out-of-mind federal cop with access to weapons, data and training could do what USA is sadly famous for.